Corbyn & Cabinet in the Media
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OK then it didn't. Socialism around corner.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
let yer man answer, if you think he has the wherewithal
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
come on now, killer b's helped you out - would you agree with 1976?
October 17th 1986. About 3AM. Bright lights seen in sky.
Although it might have been another time.
newbie
undisambiguated
I don't know about 'victory' but there's a depressing element of truth in this.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i was hoping you'd offer a sensible reply. too much to hope for, obviously.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
so they weren't themselves neo-liberals, just responding to this 'victory' of uncertain date. which might have been eight years before blair became leader of the labour party. or it might have been eighteen years before he became leader of the labour party. but you don't know when it was.
Ask a sensible question then.
Jesus, how long can you carry on with this trying to lead people around in pointless circles and trying to derail every topic trick of yours? It makes you seem weird, not clever.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
my point is very simple: that the leaders of new labour were neo-liberal, they were not responding the this victory you claim occurred (but as noted you dare not say when it was). now, when do you think this victory occurred?
Never said they weren't neo liberal. In a different era they might not have been. They responded to the victory of neo-liberal economics, which had been established sometime between the faltering of the post-war consensus and the time of their electoral victory, by working within the consensus established by that neo-liberal victory.
But, of course, you already know all this. So is it fair to ask if you'll go and waste somebody else's time?
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
no time need have been wasted if you'd only said to start off with that you're a banned returner; any more recent arriver would not have known me from adam, given me the answer and avoided this whole palaver.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
people who 'respond' to 'something' traditionally not that 'something': people responding to the rise of fascism, people responding to twats who claim to be newbies; etc etc etc.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
That semi-fascist shit-stirrer Guido gleefully carried this story yesterday.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Drivel.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Yeah.
Yeah.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
only if you're really lucky
I believe Guido broke it. It's a reasonable story to break tbf - but connecting it with Corbyn is totally disingenuous.
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
These anti-Semites should be cleared out of the Labour Party but at the same time the weaponising of anti-Semitism accusations which are then extrapolated to accuse the Labour Party in its entirety, or at least the leadership, of anti-Semitism is a dangerous precedent. The Tory Party is now fully committed to a strategy of fearmongering amongst some minority communities, partly by setting them against each other. Take this Goldsmith leaflet as an example
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
You have an overactive imagination.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
These anti-Semites should be cleared out of the Labour Party but at the same time the weaponising of anti-Semitism accusations which are then extrapolated to accuse the Labour Party in its entirety, or at least the leadership, of anti-Semitism is a dangerous precedent. The Tory Party is now fully committed to a strategy of fearmongering amongst some minority communities, partly by setting them against each other. Take this Goldsmith leaflet as an example
Wow. 'Some of my best friends are Indian.'
and
'Don't forget he's Pakistani...'
These anti-Semites should be cleared out of the Labour Party but at the same time the weaponising of anti-Semitism accusations which are then extrapolated to accuse the Labour Party in its entirety, or at least the leadership, of anti-Semitism is a dangerous precedent. The Tory Party is now fully committed to a strategy of fearmongering amongst some minority communities, partly by setting them against each other. Take this Goldsmith leaflet as an example
Disgusting pure communalism, playing with fire.
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
There was a good amount of it in the election, and in the run up to it, last year which flew under the radar. The Tories pandered to Hindu bigots by opposing a ban on caste discrimination and in return their got a good amount of their votes.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
I think that is to suggest there was rather more thought put into that leaflet than appears to have been the case.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
For someone who's ranted about the stereotyping of black people, you're awfully free with posting a link that stereotypes Jewish people.
The article you link to is an emotionalist piece of shit, by the way. The opening paragraph 2 paragraphs - a full third of the entire article- are about Yad Vashem, effectively appealing to the holocaust as a marker for letting the state of Israel get on with what it does best. The author claims that anti-Semitism didn't exist in the Labour Party until Corbyn and "the left" took over. It's interesting that you blame "the left", too, just like the author.
It's interesting because Kirby had already been disciplined for this sort of behaviour under Miliband. So much for anti-Semitism not existing in the Labour Party until Corbyn, eh?
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
He's pretty much got every poster that's ever called him on his bullshit on ignore.
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