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Meanwhile, over at 1 Canada Square, the home of the Torygraph, they're claiming that if Corbyn becomes PM it will be a "return to the era of beer and sandwiches at No. 10". This from a paper that supports a party in government that has no industrial policy.

Is there a single person in the country that dislikes beer and sandwiches? If you don't like one you must surely like the other. In fact if I were to describe my perfect work scenario 'beer and sandwiches' would definitely be in the description.
 
I honestly did not see this polling boost coming, did anyone else? Any guesses on why we've seen it? The Tories are pretty divided and the budget was a big fuck you to almost all of us, or are people just getting used to actually having a socialist leader of the opposition? Or is it a bit of both?

My thinking is that the Labour leadership has not made much impression on the general population. Corbyn's election as Labour leader seems like an earthquake to people who follow politics but this is a very small fraction of the population. The budget however is big news to most people. I think what we've just seen is a fragile confidence in the Tory party crumble at the edges.
 
Is there a single person in the country that dislikes beer and sandwiches? If you don't like one you must surely like the other. In fact if I were to describe my perfect work scenario 'beer and sandwiches' would definitely be in the description.
while I know its a vieled metaphor for 'der union barons will be calling the shots' bollocks, I'll have a toasted cheese ham with tomato slices in it and a kronenburg.

Number 10 has its own wine cellar apparently and each PM 'lays down' a bottle or 60 to age. £3.2 millions worth of the stuff they say. How the other half live eh.
 
Meanwhile, over at 1 Canada Square, the home of the Torygraph, they're claiming that if Corbyn becomes PM it will be a "return to the era of beer and sandwiches at No. 10". This from a paper that supports a party in government that has no industrial policy.

This shows their poor understanding of the beer and sandwiches era and basic economics. In the 70s Income Policies were the better option for controlling inflation, rather than using recessions to curb it as we do now.
Of course Income policies affecting wages and prices only really work if you have a majority of state owned industries.
So if Corbyn is in number 10, will we see the renationalisation of all our manufacturing industries, Oh where has it gone?

But a cheese and pickle sandwich and a bottle of Black Sheep would suit me if being offered!
 
With canapes and shampoo you can get those little plastic things so you can hang your glass on the side of the plate. Won't work with pint pots and you can't vape no handed.
 
This is where the discarded harmonica holders also popular in the sixties and seventies could also make a comeback!

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by the the time you've added a foot syrup to push the button it will all get a bit heath robinson.


The Eric Pickles snack shelf ftw

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This shows their poor understanding of the beer and sandwiches era and basic economics. In the 70s Income Policies were the better option for controlling inflation, rather than using recessions to curb it as we do now.
Of course Income policies affecting wages and prices only really work if you have a majority of state owned industries.
So if Corbyn is in number 10, will we see the renationalisation of all our manufacturing industries, Oh where has it gone?

It was one of the least bad options for dealing with that period of stagflation. There were large private sector firms with improving sales and productivity that were happy to break the 5% ceiling. The sort of perks associated with MPs became popular to circumnavigate the problem. Quality subsidised canteens became popular in factories for eg.
 
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With the Tory party imploding, Labour needs to reinvent itself – fast
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Corbyn can’t afford to wait five years. After the resignation of Iain Duncan Smith, the next election could be sooner than expected

‘As he tries to reforge Labour as an alliance, Jeremy Corbyn will have to manoeuvre around the same iceberg that sank IDS: welfare.’ Photograph: Peter Powell/PA
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When a Conservative minister arrives in the offices of a newspaper or broadcaster, they’ll often see the faces of friends, ex-colleagues or even horseriding chums. It’s the same in the City, the same for business, the same across the thinktank world. Because of this it can seem, from the inside, that the party has dense roots and political resilience. And as long as you’re talking only about this elite horizontal stratum, it does.

But the resignation of Iain Duncan Smith shows the fragility of the project. Cameron became prime minister with the support of just 24.3% of registered voters. The recovery has petered out. The fiscal rules are broken in their entirety. There is every possibility that Osborne will be forced out; that Cameron will be challenged; that Brexit will happen, triggering a new election; and after that, a second Scottish independence referendum.

Labour’s frontbench can notch IDS up as a tactical victory: they prepared their own fiscal rule, pitched their budget response around Osborne’s failure and lack of fairness, and conducted themselves competently. As a result, they have probably killed off Blairite dreams of a coup, even if some of the plotters continued on autopilot, attacking their own leadership while the Tories imploded.

But now, to become ready for government, Labour has to make hard choices – and in areas the radical left has little experience of: party management, political strategy, and compromise with one’s own principles.

Corbyn has the firm support of most unions, tens of thousands of new and active members and about a quarter of the PLP. His enemies are isolated. But his real problem is the unenthusiastic centre: the legion of Labour councillors swept up into Osborne’s “Northern Powerhouse” farrago; the centrist Labour MPs who just want to win; and, above all, the swing voters waiting to see what Labour becomes under Corbyn.

Given the urgency, and the soreness of political wounds, there is an obvious solution: for Corbyn to make an explicit offer to the right and centre of his party that allows them space, gives them responsibility and even allocates them control of certain policy areas. In return he – and the party membership – should ask that they turn their Twitter accounts and millionaire-funded private offices against the Conservatives, not the left.

Corbyn might have to face down resistance to that from some in the Momentum group, whose activists believe over the long term they can transform the entire party. That may have been true over a five-year opposition term, but Labour now has to plan for a shorter turnaround.

With the Tory party imploding, Labour needs to reinvent itself – fast | Paul Mason
Can someone explain what Paul Mason is suggesting here, a move to the right, compromise with the Blairites?, etc, power at any price, doesn't sound very promising
 
"This will be hard to design in a single conference season, while some of the sharpest minds on welfare are in that group of MPs that has decided not to participate in the Corbyn team. An overt offer of responsibility to them might change that.

Fuck , he wants to give reconfiguring the welfare state project to the blairites and people like Yvette Cooper who initiated the Kafkaesque 'imaginary wheelchair test' as part of a more brutal WCA test: if you can propel this imaginary wheelchair(remember you don't have to actually own one) 50 metres you fail that part of the test. I don't think sick and disabled people want such apparatchiks anywhere near a humane reconfiguring of social security.
 
Fuck , he wants to give reconfiguring the welfare state project to the blairites and people like Yvette Cooper who initiated the Kafkaesque 'imaginary wheelchair test' as part of a more brutal WCA test: if you can propel this imaginary wheelchair(remember you don't have to actually own one) 50 metres you fail that part of the test. I don't think sick and disabled people want such apparatchiks anywhere near a humane reconfiguring of social security.

Paul Mason has really let himself down lately.
 
.... I don't think sick and disabled people want such apparatchiks anywhere near a humane reconfiguring of social security.

Unless Corbyn - or perhaps someone with more political nouse like McDonnell - sorts something out in the next year, the 2020GE will sort that out for you permanently. You are however unlikely to appreciate the alternative.

Politics is either getting some of what you want and some of what you don't, or none of what you want and lots that you don't. Pick one...
 
Unless Corbyn - or perhaps someone with more political nouse like McDonnell - sorts something out in the next year, the 2020GE will sort that out for you permanently. You are however unlikely to appreciate the alternative.

Politics is either getting some of what you want and some of what you don't, or none of what you want and lots that you don't. Pick one...

Who says that treelover isn't compromising already with Corbyn?
 
Who says that treelover isn't compromising already with Corbyn?

then treelover would be unlucky.

without some form of compromise - not least with the electorate - Corbyn, and by extension, those who want him to enact their policies, will be in no more position to change the situation than Cnut was to stop the tide. people can - of course - choose the moral purity of a refusal to make dirty compromises if they wish...
 
then treelover would be unlucky.

without some form of compromise - not least with the electorate - Corbyn, and by extension, those who want him to enact their policies, will be in no more position to change the situation than Cnut was to stop the tide. people can - of course - choose the moral purity of a refusal to make dirty compromises if they wish...

Corbyn's domestic policies are closer to public opinion than anything offered by a Tory or Labour leader for decades, the idea that they are based on radical theory is ridiculous. They are post-Keynesian rather than socialist. They are basically one inch to the left of neoliberalism, which is one inch too far for our ruling class which is why they have declared war on him, one of the ways in which that war is being fought is the perpetuation of this nonsense that his policies are Bolshevism Redux.
 
then treelover would be unlucky.

without some form of compromise - not least with the electorate - Corbyn, and by extension, those who want him to enact their policies, will be in no more position to change the situation than Cnut was to stop the tide. people can - of course - choose the moral purity of a refusal to make dirty compromises if they wish...

You do know that Cnut didn't want to stop the tide; that wasn't the point he was trying to make.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice
 
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