Commie Bastards have one more success in Nepal!

[DrRingDing]

You see this girl to the left?

 

[DrRingDing]

See her smile?

Her innocence?

Her beauty?

 

[DrRingDing]

She was imprisioned for three years tortured and raped daily....for being a maoist.

 

[DrRingDing]

There is mass popular support.

 

[DrRingDing]

Look at these people?

Do you see 'evil'?

These are actual fighters from the PLA.

To me and to most others I would imagine they look like normal everyday people.

Passion, commitment and sincerity.

 

[DrRingDing]

These are a range of 'evil' maoists in their home territory.

Regardless of caste or sex these people are breaking the most extreme bigotry possibly in the world to form a group based on equality.

In this picture you see maoists from the top to the bottom, full timers and part timers.

I'm not saying who is who but lets just say Jessidogs and most other peoples heres perceptions are broken.

 

[DrRingDing]

She was imprisioned for three years tortured and raped daily....for being a maoist.

Tell me who is evil?

 

[kropotkin]

Fucking hell: any fucking third world peasant with a gun gets a good cheerleading from people here! You understand that Maoists are essentially Stalinists, right?

 

[Streathamite]

come on Dr tinkle this is crude spin. no-one is disputing that the current regime is intolerable. The question is would the maoists be even worse. I don't think they would, and events would force a restraining alliance on them anywhere. There are LOADS of pics of happy smiling communists and red army dudes from the Yanan era - but we all know about the horrors that hit china later, and it is STILL an arbitrary dictatorhip + [police state (albreit an economically exploding one).
Pretty pics don't make the case for the maoists likely future conduct.

 

[DrRingDing]

Fucking hell: any fucking third world peasant with a gun gets a good cheerleading from people here! You understand that Maoists are essentially Stalinists, right?

Stalin and Mao had major polical differences.

 

[DrRingDing]

Stalin and Mao had major polical differences.

Stalin wanted centralisation of industry etc and Mao was to opposed to that, he wanted the people, the communes, to be independent.

 

[Streathamite]

Fucking hell: any fucking third world peasant with a gun gets a good cheerleading from people here! You understand that Maoists are essentially Stalinists, right?

err...no they're not. there's a large, yawning gap between stalinism and Maoism. mao added a huge amount to the ideological mix.

 

[DrRingDing]

This is not going to result in a one party state. You will see that Nepal is rammed with dirty commies left right and center.

A democracy based a constituent assembly will show you that.

 

[Jessiedog]

There is mass popular support.

Troll of the year.

Brilliant!



Woof

 

[Jessiedog]

Abducted schoolchildren, morelike.





Woof

 

[belboid]

err...no they're not. there's a large, yawning gap between stalinism and Maoism. mao added a huge amount to the ideological mix.

like what? beng a bit keener on peasants is about it really. certainly nothing in the way or workers' democracy or control.

 

[kropotkin]

Stalin wanted centralisation of industry etc and Mao was to opposed to that, he wanted the people, the communes, to be independent.

you gullible idiot.

 

[revol68]

you gullible idiot.

quite, the difference was that Stalin had already stuck his peasants into collective gulags and hyper exploited them to built heavy industry.
Maoism was just stalinism with the determinism replaced by volunteerism and a massive peasant population.

 

[DrRingDing]

you gullible idiot.

You read in that what you wanted to read.

Stalin wanted centralisation of industry etc and Mao was to opposed to that, he wanted the people, the communes, to be independent.

Mao wanted ulitmate control but he wanted industry to be locally run.

I'm an anarchist in my heart (...and I dont take that lightly), that is why I support the maoists due to the improvements to peoples lives I have witnessed first hand.

Equality before politcal nit picking and brick chucking.

 

[DrRingDing]

Troll of the year.

Brilliant!



Woof

Wait and see what happens in the elections honey.

 

[kropotkin]

Mao wanted ulitmate control but he wanted industry to be locally run.

run by whom? By workers' councils? By party apparatchics?

what do you think will happen to industry if/when the Maoists take control either through the const ituent assembly or by revolution [which will provoke invasion by india + china]? The controlled peasantry will be used to rapidly industrialise-the same story of forced labour used elsewhere.

 

[Streathamite]

like what? beng a bit keener on peasants is about it really. certainly nothing in the way or workers' democracy or control.

OK...here are my initial thoughts.
maoism grew out of marxism-leninism, but it was sinicized and adapted in a way that made it a unique variant of marxism.
firstly, as you say the Peasantry. 'being a bit keener' is the understatement of the century. Mao's revolution was COMPLETELY based on the peasantry; how could it be otherwise in a nation where the urban w/c was such a small part of the overall population as to be more or less negligible. Unlike Stalin - and Marx for that matter - mao believed that society could skip from feudalism to workers revolution, bypassing the industrial stage (let's face it, he had to, or the chinese revolution was a dead duck).
His army was a peasant army, with a spirit of agrarain egalitarianism I doubt you'd have found anywhere in its' russian counterpart.
second, the psychology of classlessness. In the Yanan era mao found a way - in one of the most historically hierarchical, socially immobile and class-ridden societies you can imagine - to create a genuine spirit and consciousness of classlessness, or rather class-transcendent egalitarianism that i don't think ol' Joe ever achieved. That, IMO, feeds back into his theory too.

On the subject of Nepal - I am wary of CPN(M) - they're vicious little fuckers. BUT if they mean their words on an assembly, then they (in tandem with others) can only be a vast improvement on what's gone before. I really wouldn't past that medieval scumbag Gyanendra to try another coup.
gotta go (work) so more later....these are just initial reflections

 

[DrRingDing]

run by whom? By workers' councils? By party apparatchics?

what do you think will happen to industry if/when the Maoists take control either through the const ituent assembly or by revolution [which will provoke invasion by india + china]? The controlled peasantry will be used to rapidly industrialise-the same story of forced labour used elsewhere.

There will be no invasion by India or china.

Wanna make a small wager in the nameof the server fund or more appropriately for the war orphans of Nepal?

 

[DrRingDing]

what do you think will happen to industry if/when the Maoists take control either through the const ituent assembly or by revolution

Nepal has fuckallnatural resources except one major advantage.

It has the 2nd most amout of water in the world.

It also has the worlds highest mountains.

Brazil with the Amazon has the most water but by traditional methods of hydroelectric power it's as practicalto tap into as Nepal.

Prachanda has stated Nepal will make money flogging power to China and India.

Hydroelectric power, tourism and an increase in industry will be the future for Nepal's economy in my humble opinion.

You can watch on the road to China one way traffic bringing goods in from there and nothing being taken back in return. This is somthing that is to be changed.

 

[DrRingDing]

Nepal has fuckallnatural resources except one major advantage.

It has the 2nd most amout of water in the world.

It also has the worlds highest mountains.

Brazil with the Amazon has the most water but by traditional methods of hydroelectric power it's as practicalto tap into as Nepal.

Prachanda has stated Nepal will make money flogging power to China and India.

Hydroelectric power, tourism and an increase in industry will be the future for Nepal's economy in my humble opinion.

U.S., Indian companies interested in Nepal's hydropower sector

The U.S. and Indian companies are showing interest to invest in Nepal's hydropower sector as the country is heading towards permanent peace, local media reported on Friday.

I bet they are the skanky cunts, hurry up and nationalise before these parasitess gets a slice.


http://english.people.com.cn/200611/03/eng20061103_318004.html

 

[kropotkin]

There will be no invasion by India or china.

Wanna make a small wager in the nameof the server fund or more appropriately for the war orphans of Nepal?

You think that Chaina (who have been funding the RNA with weapons and cash) or India (doing the same at different points in competition with China) would allow a succesful Maoist uprising in Nepal, at the risk of giving succour to their own indiginous resistance movements (Naxalites in India and...who knows what in China)?

I suspect that Prachanda knows this quite well, and it is one of the pressures towards accepting the constituent assembly as a strategy.

 

[DrRingDing]

I suspect that Prachanda knows this quite well, and it is one of the pressures towards accepting the constituent assembly as a strategy.

Their demands for a constituent assembly have been there from day 1.

Just because the US supplied money , arms, logistics and training to south and middle america they did not invade.

 

[DrRingDing]

Just because the US supplied money , arms, logistics and training to south and middle america they did not invade.

Not publicly anyhoo.

 

[DrRingDing]

So are you up for a wager in appeal of the war orphans of Nepal that neither China nor India will invade* within a set time after the elections?



*to be decided by an independent

 

[kropotkin]

what do you think will happen to industry if/when the Maoists take control either through the const ituent assembly or by revolution [which will provoke invasion by india + china]?

I said that I think that if there was a revolution, there would be an invasion. You are implying that I said there wuld be an invasion if there is a democratic transition, which i did not.