Cheese on toast vs 'grilled' cheese vs cheese toastie

[Spymaster]

I said:

'Welsh rarebit involves making a roux. Proper cooking.'

It's not my fault you're a culinary insophisticate.

Well I'll be a monkey's uncle. It seems you're right!

I'm going to have to make one now.

 

[blairsh]

Choast

 

[Puddy_Tat]

Celtic fringe fail. all we need now is someone fron Cornwall to say they make toastees in a trouser press or something.

from Corby, surely?

 

[philosophical]

If you haven't got any cheese, but do have bread, and a banana at just the right stage, then using the back of a fork and squashing the banana down on hot toast is surprisingly good.
An optional extra if you have a sweet tooth is a little drizzle of Golden Syrup on the top, or Honey if you're posh.

 

[Elpenor]

I don’t remember ever having made cheese on toast, or a grilled cheese sandwich, or a cheese toastie, or even put a piece of cold cheese on a slice of toast

I am amazed there are so many ways to do it; and yet they’re all wrong!

 

[Aladdin]

Not sure you could call cheese on toast world stage but visitors to Ireland discover that in many, many of it's numerous pubs the only food on offer (apart from Manhattens peanuts and Tayto crisps) is the toasted cheese(/ham) sandwich. It is slightly different in execution to previously discussed variations, there is a job specific double grill that the publicans use to knock out tasty cheese toasties in a few minutes.

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So póg mo thón.

When I was young I spent a summer making toasties in one of those

 

[Sue]

I don’t remember ever having made cheese on toast, or a grilled cheese sandwich, or a cheese toastie, or even put a piece of cold cheese on a slice of toast

How is this even possible???


Oh. You have staff, right?

 

[The39thStep]

I hear this a lot. TV chefs always refer to "good olive oil".

What is bad olive oil?

 

[Elpenor]

How is this even possible???


Oh. You have staff, right?

I don’t think I’m a fan of using the grill

Might look into this dry frying thing though

 

[Sue]

I don’t think I’m a fan of using the grill

Might look into this dry frying thing though

Don't listen to this lot and their nonsense.

 

[Artaxerxes]

I did enjoy this tbf.

Notable Sandwiches #75: Grilled Cheese

On the joy of a small and perfect thing

theswordandthesandwich.substack.com

In writing about the grilled cheese sandwich, I find myself with little to offer but praise. It is difficult to encounter such a thing and not overrun the page with the fervency of my gladness.

This is not a column where I will carp and complain—about air-fryer grilled cheeses, or fancy gourmet grilled cheeses, or Kraft-single grilled cheeses, or the proper application of butter, or the appropriate pan, or the degree and nature of the condiments. To me, each grilled cheese is enough, and more than enough. In this world so full of slaughter and fire, where doubt and monstrosity abound, this much is clear to me: the grilled cheese is a small and perfect thing. And how many of those are there?

 

[WouldBe]

What about beans?

Bread then cheese or cheese then bread.

 

[story]

Can you get American cheese in UK?

American Cheese is not cheese. Even the FDA don’t allow it to be officially considered as cheese.

Well, as you might have guessed, it’s not actually cheese—at least, not legally. The FDA calls it “pasteurized processed American cheese food.” In order for a food product to be a true “cheese,” it has to be more than half cheese, which is technically pressed curds of milk. So each Kraft American single contains less than 51% curds, which means it doesn’t meet the FDA’s standard.

What Are Kraft Singles and Velveeta Really Made Of?

As the saying goes, there's nothing more American than a slice of apple pie—or a piece of shiny orange cheese.

www.tasteofhome.com

I’d never use it for any variety of cheese on toast, but there is something magically wonderful about the shiny melty salty orange slices, and the cellophane envelope is a design classic.

 

[story]

What the ACTUAL fuck?

I've never tried the bottled variety but fried green tomatoes, green tomato chutney, and green tomato ketchup are all good things.

 

[ruffneck23]

Seriously though, toast your bread, butter it, then put grated cheese (and what ever you choose on top ) on it and bung it in the air fryer (180 degree) for 3-5 mins.

Its amazing

 

[story]

Grated?
or sliced?

https://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/cheese-toastie-grated-or-sliced-cheese.360710/

 

[moochedit]

I don’t remember ever having made cheese on toast, or a grilled cheese sandwich, or a cheese toastie, or even put a piece of cold cheese on a slice of toast

I am amazed there are so many ways to do it; and yet they’re all wrong!

So what is the one true way?

 

[Elpenor]

I've never tried the bottled variety but fried green tomatoes, green tomato chutney, and green tomato ketchup are all good things.

It sounds far nicer than regular ketchup, I’ve never seen it in a shop. Will keep my eyes peeled for it

 

[dessiato]

I hear this a lot. TV chefs always refer to "good olive oil".

What is bad olive oil?

The flavours can vary enormously and the use to which you want to put the oil should take this into consideration. Good oil should have an acidity of less than 7%.

The flavour and nose will clearly indicate whether it's a good oil.

You cannot get really good oil in the UK supermarkets.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

What I do is rub a bit of garlic across two slices of bread and lightly toast them on one side.Put a couple of slices of emmental or gruyere on the untoasted sides and lightly grill them, assemble the sandwich then spread a cheddar roux with mustard on top and grill

* swoons * Will you marry me?

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

Yeah, wanna stick one on for me, The39thStep? Sounds delicious (if a bit too faffy) so while you're on your feet... (as we used to say in my family.

Oh. I see there's a queue forming.

Is this the end of the queue? she asks, in British.

Have you been waiting long?

Bit nippy today, don't you think?

 

[story]

The flavours can vary enormously and the use to which you want to put the oil should take this into consideration. Good oil should have an acidity of less than 7%.

The flavour and nose will clearly indicate whether it's a good oil.

You cannot get really good oil in the UK supermarkets.

This one’s not bad.

https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/267237363

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

That’s the proper pub grill . Decades ago I used to love toasted cheese and onion sandwiches made on them. Actually just got an urge for a proper pint of Guinness and one of them .

Me too. And I don't even drink Guinness. But count me in anyway.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

Cheese on toast ftw.

What the Americans call a 'grilled cheese' is actually a fried cheese sandwich. I've never tried one because I don't trust any recipe created by people who don't know the difference between a grill and a frying pan. Would you buy a car off someone who told you it was a helicopter?

You really don't want to go down the rabbit hole of USian 'casserole' recipes on Pinterest, that's a whole world, nay universe of wtf?!? No, really, what the actual fucking fuck!?!?!?!

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

I don’t remember ever having made cheese on toast, or a grilled cheese sandwich, or a cheese toastie, or even put a piece of cold cheese on a slice of toast

I am amazed there are so many ways to do it; and yet they’re all wrong!

You've not lived. Breakfast of champions. And lunch. And dinner. And midnight snack/munchies.

 

[Spymaster]

The flavours can vary enormously and the use to which you want to put the oil should take this into consideration. Good oil should have an acidity of less than 7%.

The flavour and nose will clearly indicate whether it's a good oil.
You cannot get really good oil in the UK supermarkets.

Well of course there are different qualities and flavours. I’m more interested in the point at which olive oil stops being “good”.

So, oil with an acidity of 7% or more is not considered “good”?

 

[dessiato]

Well of course there are different qualities and flavours. I’m more interested in the point at which olive oil stops being “good”.

So, oil with an acidity of 7% or more is not considered “good”?

Ideally it should be about 4%. 7% is the max for a reasonable one. At least that's what producers in Spain told me.

eta last time I was home I got some cold pressed, single producer, oil. It was amazing. Very expensive, I paid about 30€ for three litres, but worth every single cent. It needed nothing adding except some good bread to enjoy it. Or just by itself from a spoon.

 

[dessiato]

This one’s not bad.

https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/267237363

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Its OK but nothing special. Also, according to oil producers I knew, Italian oil is often "adulterated" by adding Spanish oil. I was told that a large part of oil being exported goes to Italy.

 

[story]

Its OK but nothing special. Also, according to oil producers I knew, Italian oil is often "adulterated" by adding Spanish oil. I was told that a large part of oil being exported goes to Italy.

I have family in Greece so I understand what you’re saying about olive oil.

As I said, for a British supermarket olive oil, the Casolare is “not too bad”.

 

[wtfftw]

Seriously though, toast your bread, butter it, then put grated cheese (and what ever you choose on top ) on it and bung it in the air fryer (180 degree) for 3-5 mins.

Its amazing

Yes. This is the way.