What??? Answer my question
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What??? Answer my question
Just explain your logic
butchersapron
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I just did. Am i a martian or not? Do you reject majority opinion or what?
discokermit
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No you didn't
you haven't proved opinion is fact at all, you're just trying to wind me up
I don't reject all majority opinion, just some
opinion is a person's thoughts on a subject, it usually isn't objective fact; it's subjective opinion
it's a category error to equate opinion with fact
butchersapron
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In the same way that to confuse majority opinion with inaccuracy is a what sort of error?
Btw - just how much of majority opinion do you reject?
SpineyNorman
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There are different kinds of things we can have opinions on. We can have opinions about objective claims that can be shown to be true or untrue (the guilt or innocence of Maxine Carr would fit into this). In these kinds of cases your opinion can be shown to be false. For example, if I say that in my opinion UKIP will win 6 seats at the next general election and they win 5 my opinion has been shown to be wrong. On these kinds of questions you won't find people on here simply accepting that opinions differ - we will try and get the evidence so we can show who/what is right.
Equally, we can have opinions on subjective claims that can never be resolved, for example if the two of us were to disagree over which is better: cheese or rollercoasters, I think cheese and you think rollercoasters, we'd just have to agree to disagree because there are no facts that can be known about the question.
Do you understand what I mean when I make this distinction nessa239 ?
Equally, we can have opinions on subjective claims that can never be resolved, for example if the two of us were to disagree over which is better: cheese or rollercoasters, I think cheese and you think rollercoasters, we'd just have to agree to disagree because there are no facts that can be known about the question.
Do you understand what I mean when I make this distinction nessa239 ?
I said some majority opinions are inaccurate, not all
or to be more accurate I don't agree with a lot of majority opinions ie it's not a factual right/wrong thing, it's an I agree/disagree, like/dislike type thing instead
ie it's an opinion thing more than factual
I have never quantified the percentage that I reject but I'm the sort of person that if I'm told 'You must see this film!' in the media I will tend to think no way - it's mainstream crap probably ie the hype makes me do the opposite
butchersapron
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Would you say that a majority of majority opinion is wrong?
My opinion can be shown to be false in a court of law and at this moment in time given what we know so far She could do something in future that gave more credence to my opinion though
I can say I don't like her moral character and still have that opinion
I've never considered it in this much depth; I just often seem to not be in agreement with a lot of it A lot is media-dictated imo ie here's the latest gadget - ooh I must get one
I see trends in society that everyone rushes to get involved with and I don't' want to so it seems that a lot of people do stuff just because they think the majority is doing it
butchersapron
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You've just argued that your opinion is false. You're a weird fish alright.
butchersapron
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Well, consider it. And i think you have already btw.
I'm not used to having this type of agenda-based discussion; it seems unnecessarily aggressive
butchersapron
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I'm not used to someone arguing that their opinion should be rejected in a court of law either.
you're all tying me up in knots with semantics
I'm not good at this type of discussion as the goalposts keep being moved
this is adversarial discussion ie point-scoring
butchersapron
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Just be more accurate and don't insult everyone else. Or we'll tie you up.
SpineyNorman
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you called me a weird fish - so again the insults came from you not me
discokermit
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that's a sign he likes you.
butchersapron
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Ok, you're a quare fish.
because you've got me confused now!
my brain can't cope with too many parameters - it thinks in serial not parallel mode
you have all these rigid cant think this or that but in my mind I think what I like - it doesn't get scrutinised as much and I can justify it to myself
why? what makes me one? if I've got aspergers that's like saying oh you cant see! to a blind person really ie fking obvious!
a weird Asperger person - what a novelty!
butchersapron
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zzzz
discokermit
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whereabouts in wolvo you living nessa?
discokermit
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i used to live in zoar st.
SpineyNorman
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But don't you think your views should be able to stand up to scrutiny? And if they can't they might be incorrect? I like to have mine scrutinised, it's one of the things I like about these boards - because if I'm wrong about something I like to know so that I can change my mind.
We like to scrutinise views on the politics boards on this site - when there are things that can be known about issues we like to get to know them. If that kind of rigour upsets you or you don't like it you might enjoy posting on some of the other forums on here more - we discuss things a lot less seriously and intensely on the general forum and a lot of issues are covered - you might prefer it on there. Just to be clear, I'm not trying to force you to do anything, just making a suggestion.
butchersapron
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Is the wolves cowboy still around btw?
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