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Characterising UKIP?

SpineyNorman said:
Yes I know, I don't dispute that fact. But that's not the same as labour outpolling UKIP/the Tories combined by 2-1. They didn't come anywhere near it. If I was even sadder than I am I'd aggregate the results to give a figure but I'm not.
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I make mistakes - do you ever do that?
 
discokermit said:
yeh, what?
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Would you agree with this?

nessa239 said:
it's just the state of Council budget and lack of ability at managing the budget - you'd vote for anything but a repeat of the same basically! They've been closing libraries, threatened to close swimming baths, which has had a reprieve I think; all sorts of services cut back or cancelled - it's been appallingly managed. The city has a very bad image now - people avoid it. Shops not being able to afford rents etc. It's turned into a right dive that we only go into when absolutely necessary. Council don't seem to have a clue about how to regenerate it - having no money for the task being major factor, they spent a fortune on a new bus station though and a massive new Sainsburys is being built - how this is going to help I don't know. I think council is possibly corrupt behind the scenes - loads of backhanders and people just lining their pockets - this is how it seems to me, especially with Labour getting back in again on such a majority. It's as if people didn't realise the council was Labour not Tory and have blamed cuts on the Tories as opposed to evident Labour council mismanagement of budget.
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nessa239 said:
Labour won with a sizeable majority of seats so it wasn't that wrong

if you want to go on about it though go ahead - I know it's what people go on forums for
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Your claim that labour had two votes to every other vote in your town was totally wrong. If you get basic facts like this wrong - or lie about them, or exaggerate them - people won't trust you. Now i don't trust your ability to accurately report things or to evaluate stats. God knows what a cynic might think.
 
butchersapron said:
Your claim that labour had two votes to every other vote in your town was totally wrong. If you get basic facts like this wrong - or lie about them, or exaggerate them - people won't trust you. Now i don't trust your ability to accurately report things or to evaluate stats. God knows what a cynic might think.
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Oh my God! is all I'll say to that
 
SpineyNorman said:
Yes - there's no need to get defensive, you made a claim I found difficult to believe so I checked it out - it's not a personal attack on you.
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it's the way people go on and on about it

Did you know JUST HOW WRONG you were???????!

half the time I can't even remember what my partner has just asked for when i ask if he wants tea or coffee and have to ask again - I do not have a mind like a steel trap!
 
butchersapron said:
A bully and a nerd. I have the excuse of only popping back in for a bit...you though...
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I'm meant to be revising for an exam - the weird thing is I'm actually interested in the subject matter but because it's something I've got to do I seem to be intent on finding any way I can to avoid it :D
 
brogdale said:
What services would you like to have seen cut, then?
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I would lower shop rents for a start and try and be more enterprising in use of empty properties for services

I wouldn't know what needed cutting until had overview of what money was being spent on

I would cut the utter wastage of money which I know occurs as have worked for council in the past
 
nessa239 said:
it's the way people go on and on about it

Did you know JUST HOW WRONG you were???????!

half the time I can't even remember what my partner has just asked for when i ask if he wants tea or coffee and have to ask again - I do not have a mind like a steel trap!
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Seriously, I don't know why you're taking it personally. When people make claims on these boards we like to check them out.

And it seems you were right about labour in the council anyway:

discokermit said:
pretty much. the place is a shithole, much worse than it's ever been. labour are cunts.
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Though I must point out that since you agree with the other Wolverhampton poster you're now agreeing with the majority view on here ;)
 
nessa239 said:
I would lower shop rents for a start and try and be more enterprising in use of empty properties for services

I wouldn't know what needed cutting until had overview of what money was being spent on
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and I'm out.
 
SpineyNorman said:
Seriously, I don't know why you're taking it personally. When people make claims on these boards we like to check them out.

And it seems you were right about labour in the council anyway:


Though I must point out that since you agree with the other Wolverhampton poster you're now agreeing with the majority view on here ;)
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So I'm only right when someone backs up my point

as a stand alone opinion as uttered by just me, it was going to be dismissed

thanks!
 
nessa239 said:
So I'm only right when someone backs up my point

as a stand alone opinion as uttered by just me, it was going to be dismissed

thanks!
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Yes. You're a poster who I don't know and who has form for making claims that either cannot be backed up or can be shown to be untrue. Having read DK's posts for a few years now I know him to be reliable. Him agreeing with your claims adds weight to them. This is perfectly reasonable, you're not being persecuted.
 
brogdale said:


and I'm out.
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SpineyNorman said:
Yes. You're a poster who I don't know and who has form for making claims that either cannot be backed up or can be shown to be untrue. Having read DK's posts for a few years now I know him to be reliable. Him agreeing with your claims adds weight to them. This is perfectly reasonable, you're not being persecuted.
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Lol thanks for that I am honoured!

If anything I say is unreliable I can assure you it's not a malicious act
 
nessa239 said:
Lol thanks for that I am honoured!

If anything I say is unreliable I can assure you it's not a malicious act
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I didn't think it was malicious. It's possible to think someone is wrong without ascribing any kind of ulterior motive. And on that note I'll leave it until something else relating to the topic of the thread comes up - I don't want this thread to become about you and I'm sure you don't either.
 
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