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Capaldi leaving Doctor Who

Vintage Paw said:
She would be good in the role but somehow I'm put off by the idea. I'm not entirely sure why. Maybe it's because she comes across as aloof and up her own arse? I have no idea if she's really like that. It's all mirrors, and that. Then there's the whole Dr Strange white-washing thing which leaves me grumpy anyway. But yes, I don't doubt she would be good in the role.
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TBF, as someone who'll confess to reading Dr Strange comics 35+ years ago, it was pretty hard to establish Strange's guru's gender, except that Strange used the term "master" very occasionally (usually used "venerable one"). Obviously, the whitewashing issue is another thing altogether. It was always made very plain that the venerable one was a native Tibetan, and of "Asiatic" hue.
 
ViolentPanda said:
TBF, as someone who'll confess to reading Dr Strange comics 35+ years ago, it was pretty hard to establish Strange's guru's gender, except that Strange used the term "master" very occasionally (usually used "venerable one"). Obviously, the whitewashing issue is another thing altogether. It was always made very plain that the venerable one was a native Tibetan, and of "Asiatic" hue.
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It has nothing to do with gender. It's all about the whitewashing.

The excuse they (and Swinton herself) gave was that in the comics the depiction was a potentially offensive asian stereotype, and they didn't want to be offensive. So their solution? It wasn't to write an asian character who wasn't a stereotype (what a foolish notion), but rather to change the character into a white person instead.

Ergo, the implication is that the way to avoid racism is by making sure everyone is white.
 
Vintage Paw said:
It has nothing to do with gender. It's all about the whitewashing.

The excuse they (and Swinton herself) gave was that in the comics the depiction was a potentially offensive asian stereotype, and they didn't want to be offensive. So their solution? It wasn't to write an asian character who wasn't a stereotype (what a foolish notion), but rather to change the character into a white person instead.

Ergo, the implication is that the way to avoid racism is by making sure everyone is white.
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Fair point, well made. :)
 
So apparently series 11 won't be airing till Autumn 2018? After finally managing to get Doctor Who back to Spring this year, which almost everyone agrees is a better time for it to be on air? What on earth is going on with this show at the moment?

Although the way Doctor Who was aired over 2012/2013 was frustrating, (more due to miscommunication from higher ups than anything else) if it genuinely isn't possible to produce 10+ hours of Who a year for more than 2 series at a time, (as it's looking like it isn't) then why not just take the series 7 model to it's logical conclusion & spread 14 episodes over exactly 2 years?

Surely that has got to be better than the uncertainty we have at the moment where the show is split over Spring & Autumn, then a year gap, then it's back but split again, this time in a completely different way, then it's not back on for a full run for over a year, but when it does return it's down to 12 episodes & it's only back for two series, then it's off for another year, then it's back for a full run in Spring, until next yea... ect ect ad infinitum.
 
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I don't think Tilda Swinton will do, for some reason, I think she's too big and too eclectic in her tastes in projects to be tied to Who till at least 2020.

Calpaldi could have been a great doctor but he was stuck with the dregs of the Moffat scripts with a few bright exceptions I can barely remember any of his episodes.

I think it won't be another white guy as Doctor, because after Capaldi they were left spending ages defending why they hired Peter Capaldi (what do you mean "Why Peter Capaldi? Because he's Peter fucking Capaldi thats why!") and hopefully the new showrunner will know that the best way to get a fresh start (with no more Clara, or River fucking Song) is a totally new Doctor and new Direction.
 
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Did a damn fine job in Sherlock playing all those different personas, apparently had to audition for each of them individually as well...
 
03gills said:
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Did a damn fine job in Sherlock playing all those different personas, apparently had to audition for each of them individually as well...
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She was also great in the recent Shannon Matthews thing...the one with Sheriden Smith, can't remember the name offhand :oops:
 
If it is him I will reserve judgement until I see him in the role,although I did like him in Death in Paradise.
 
03gills said:
So apparently series 11 won't be airing till Autumn 2018? After finally managing to get Doctor Who back to Spring this year, which almost everyone agrees is a better time for it to be on air? What on earth is going on with this show at the moment?

Although the way Doctor Who was aired over 2012/2013 was frustrating, (more due to miscommunication from higher ups than anything else) if it genuinely isn't possible to produce 10+ hours of Who a year for more than 2 series at a time, (as it's looking like it isn't) then why not just take the series 7 model to it's logical conclusion & spread 14 episodes over exactly 2 years?

Surely that has got to be better than the uncertainty we have at the moment where the show is split over Spring & Autumn, then a year gap, then it's back but split again, this time in a completely different way, then it's not back on for a full run for over a year, but when it does return it's down to 12 episodes & it's only back for two series, then it's off for another year, then it's back for a full run in Spring, until next yea... ect ect ad infinitum.
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It's perfectly fucking possible it just needs fuckers who actually want to make the fucking thing instead of fucking part time fuckers who are fucking off making fucking fuck knows what for other fuckers when they should be making 14 fucking episodes of Doctor fucking Who for this fuck.
 
Reading Gallifrey Base forums & came across this diarrhoea covered nugget of info:

Steve Manfred said:
I messaged a little with Graeme Burk on Twitter yesterday. He said he's hearing from sources that the BBC seem to want to move "Doctor Who" to a model of a new series every 18 months rather than every 12.

He didn't know why, but my guess would be cash-flow problems. There's probably some lag time in the finances that's snowballed into this situation.
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Sharting Vera that doesn't sound good. Though in all honesty it would hardly be noticeable, it's already been one new series every 18 months on average since 2011. The BBC needs to understand that the reason the show isn't doing as well as it was during RTD's time in charge is not because Capaldi is too old or Clara was a Mary sue or Amy awkwardly hit on the Doctor that one time (fuck me was that weird) or whatever other reason, it's because we haven't had more than two years of consecutive, full seasons since 2008. That's nearly a decade of fuckaboutery with the show's broadcast pattern.
 
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03gills said:
Reading Gallifrey Base forums & came across this diarrhoea covered nugget of info:



Sharting Vera that doesn't sound good. Though in all honesty it would hardly be noticeable, it's already been one new series every 18 months on average since 2011. The BBC needs to understand that the reason the show isn't doing as well as it was during RTD's time in charge is not because Capaldi is too old or Clara was a Mary sue or Amy awkwardly hit on the Doctor that one time (fuck me was that weird) or whatever other reason, it's because we haven't had more than two years of consecutive, full seasons since 2008. That's nearly a decade of fuckaboutery with the show's broadcast pattern.
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The quote is not me by the way it is from Gallifrey Base.

I think that is part of it. People wouldn't mind if it was accompanied by a boost in quality but it is not. I don't watch Sherlock but I'm guessing a lot is taken from Who that could be good and Who then gets recycled Sherlock shit. The Tardis as a mind castle or some shit. Doctor Who should of got a recurring baddie (proper Valeyard perhaps -if he can regenerate as a Roman a dream is not a stretch) out of Toby Jones rather than him pissing around on a shit reboot.
 
CNT36 said:
The quote is not me by the way it is from Gallifrey Base.

I think that is part of it. People wouldn't mind if it was accompanied by a boost in quality but it is not. I don't watch Sherlock but I'm guessing a lot is taken from Who that could be good and Who then gets recycled Sherlock shit. The Tardis as a mind castle or some shit. Doctor Who should of got a recurring baddie (proper Valeyard perhaps -if he can regenerate as a Roman a dream is not a stretch) out of Toby Jones rather than him pissing around on a shit reboot.
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I'll never believe that Sherlock hasn't at least been partially responsible for the all the delays we've had with Doctor Who since 2010.
 
03gills said:
I'll never believe that Sherlock hasn't at least been partially responsible for the all the delays we've had with Doctor Who since 2010.
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Sherlock started average but became really, really terrible. I hate it. I hate the presenting-half-baked-confusing-nonsensical-nonsense-as-clever; I hate the-Little-Man-Tate-on-screen-writing-and-numbers; I hate the feel of the programme; I hated the excruciating-for-the-wrong-reasons-best-man-speech (halfway through which I stopped watching the programme forever).

It's exactly the same stuff I hate when it happens in Who.

Moffat is capable of good stories. He just thinks that smart-arsery is a substitute for content. He thinks we'll be so confused we'll think something clever has actually occurred. It never has. The Empty Child was great. Blink was great. But his mature style is really, really terrible.
 
That one last year with the castle was good but the following episode nearly made me switch off for good.
 
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