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Capaldi leaving Doctor Who

danny la rouge said:
A dead actor. Richard Burton was a great actor. Is it time to cast a dead actor in the role? This could work because CGI.
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TV budgets are not quite there yet and it's also one thing to have a CG actor appear in a brief cameo or in a leading role in a series, where the limitations will quickly become obvious. Also just because Burton was a great actor that doesn't mean the motion-capture actor who plays him will be. It's not about conjuring ghosts.

The technology is only just cracking how to do completely photo realistic humans, so give it few more years.
 
Reno said:
TV budgets are not quite there yet and it's also one thing to have a CG actor appear in a brief cameo or in a leading role in a series, where the limitations will quickly become obvious. Also just because Burton was a great actor that doesn't mean the motion-capture actor who plays him will be. It's not about conjuring ghosts.

The technology is only just cracking how to do completely photo realistic humans, so give it few more years.
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So, do you maybe think Will Smith isn't interested in the post either?
 
Hayley Atwell has expressed an interest in playing the Doctor. Which of course I would applaud because she's fabulous.

I've long said Olivia Colman would be good in the role. She has the face for it. Plus she's been in it before.

I hadn't thought of Maxine Peake before, but I reckon she'd be great.

I pay zero attention to bloke actors so I can't think of anyone of the dude variety who'd be good.
 
To be honest, when I saw the news that Capaldi was leaving , I rolled my eyes & said to myself 'fuck sake not again'. It wasn't as much of a shock as with Tennant & Smith, since he'd strongly hinted during the gap year that he was more or less done, but I'm just fed up of what feels like a revolving door of actors at this stage.

It's put a dampener on my excitement for Capaldi's next series for sure, & at this point I couldn't care less who the next actor is or what the next showrunner is going to do. I'll be honest I felt that way before Capaldi announced he was leaving, Chibnall's appointment as the next showrunner didn't exactly fill me with excitement. I feel that the show is on it's last legs, like in the mid-to-late-eighties where it was swapping out actors & producers left, right & centre, hoping somehow this will improve matters.

Although I highly doubt it, if the BBC really have forced Capaldi's hand in some misguided attempt to recapture the glory days of Tennant & RTD then they are in for a rude awakening.
 
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03gills said:
To be honest, when I saw the news that Capaldi was leaving , I rolled my eyes & said to myself 'fuck sake not again'. It wasn't as much of a shock as with Tennant & Smith, since he'd strongly hinted during the gap year that he was more or less done, but I'm just fed up of what feels like a revolving door of actors at this stage.

It's put a dampener on my excitement for Capaldi's next series for sure, & at this point I couldn't care less who the next actor is or what the next showrunner is going to do. I'll be honest I felt that way before Capaldi announced he was leaving, Chibnall's appointment as the next showrunner didn't exactly fill me with excitement. I feel that the show is on it's last legs, like in the mid-to-late-eighties where it was swapping out actors & producers left, right & centre, hoping somehow this will improve matters.

Although I highly doubt it, if the BBC really have forced Capaldi's hand in some misguided attempt to recapture the glory days of Tennant & RTD then they are in for a rude awakening.
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To be fair, the trend in the old days was an average of 3 seasons per new Doctor. Tom Baker was the one who bucked the trend. As did John Nathan Turner who put in a fair few years as producer, iirc. Then again, it was under his stewardship that the programme faltered...
 
billy_bob said:
Capaldi was well cast but let down by increasingly lazy/smart-arse plots, as others have said. It's really very frustrating: it's not as if it was just shit, and could be dismissed. I think Moffat has interesting ideas, enough so that you can usually see how good an episode could have been if it had been better thought through and executed, and less time was spent on the emotional life of the companion.
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This pretty much hits the spot for me. And in fact it almost doesn't matter who is cast, as long as they are a decent actor and can bring a new interpretation to the role. It's more about what the series has become. As somebody pointed out earlier, it could be an intelligent and entertaining British sci-fi drama, but it's become a rather mawkish BBC Worldwide brand aimed at sucking in the young and impressionable into a deep character-led emotional narrative (alongside the insanely and needlessly complex series-long story arcs).

What made the classic series great was the fact that they didn't dwell on that stuff at the expense of a cracking good story. Yes, there were some series-long narratives (Tom Baker's first series to an extent, the Trial of a Time Lord etc), but they didn't bury and lose themselves in a load of heart-wringing mush (Danny La Rouge's word) that ruins it for those who want the satisfaction of a good resolution at the end of the fourth episode. Even at the end of the nu-Who series when they attempt to bring it a together I rarely really understand what the fuck has gone on because I can't remember a load of overwrought whinging from earlier episodes - and after a full season these days I barely fucking care. Maybe I'm getting old.

ETA I *am* getting old. And nostalgic. And they can do what they like. It just isn't Dr Who as it was. That's OK, it's not for me, but being a sad bastard I won't stop watching it in the hope that the odd story might push the buttons that the classic series did (which it has done on very rare occasions).
 
Personally I am gutted, not just because I think Capaldi is an excellent Doctor but because I have a massive crush on him and it'll be one less chance to indulge.
 
Capaldi tips Frances de la Tour <random tabloid link>. She'd be pretty good I reckon... 'insiders' are saying they want a more youthful doctor though. To appeal to children... Thing is, when you're 12 or under, do you really associate better with a bloke in his late 30s than someone in their 70s (plays younger)? They're both fundamentally 'adults'. Strikes me as making looking for scapegoats for the failings of the executive production team.
 
Cid said:
Capaldi tips Frances de la Tour <random tabloid link>. She'd be pretty good I reckon... 'insiders' are saying they want a more youthful doctor though. To appeal to children... Thing is, when you're 12 or under, do you really associate better with a bloke in his late 30s than someone in their 70s (plays younger)? They're both fundamentally 'adults'. Strikes me as making looking for scapegoats for the failings of the executive production team.
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Yup. Kids are notoriously crap at judging the age of adults.

Furthermore, the point of the Doctor is that he's an alien who can time travel. That's cool. I loved the Doctor when he was grey haired Jon Pertwee. I'd have been 5 - 9. I remember him generating out of Troughton and being all weird and taking his shoes to bed with him. I thought this was really cool. So I did it too. My mum threatened that I'd never get to watch it again if I did it again. Most people got the same threat because they'd had nightmares. Me it was the shoes.

Kids don't need adults guessing what they like, they need good stories.
 
killer b said:
Tennant lasted 5 years, Smith and Capaldi three years each - that's pretty typical of actors in the role. It's no more of a revolving door than it ever has been.
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According to IMDB, Tennant was in 58 episodes and Smith in 56. Capaldi has been in 45 (although that includes one in which he wasn't the doctor). I guess once Capaldi does another season, he'll end up equivalent to the other two, more or less.

Eccleston was only in 20 episodes, fwiw.

Of the old Who, it's interesting to note that whilst Sylvester McCoy was in just 42 and Colin Baker fewer, the rest massively eclipse the new Whos. Peter Davidson was in 70 and Hurtnell, Troughton, Pertwee and Tom Baker all well over 100 apiece.
 
To kabbes I have a dear friend who does that. I've known him for years and I love him, but he begins all his worst stories with "it's interesting to note...". :D

Last time it was about wood burners and the wood people are supposed to burn in them but don't.
 
kabbes said:
According to IMDB, Tennant was in 58 episodes and Smith in 56. Capaldi has been in 45 (although that includes one in which he wasn't the doctor). I guess once Capaldi does another season, he'll end up equivalent to the other two, more or less.

Eccleston was only in 20 episodes, fwiw.

Of the old Who, it's interesting to note that whilst Sylvester McCoy was in just 42 and Colin Baker fewer, the rest massively eclipse the new Whos. Peter Davidson was in 70 and Hurtnell, Troughton, Pertwee and Tom Baker all well over 100 apiece.
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Episodes were only half as long in the old days
 
danny la rouge said:
To kabbes I have a dear friend who does that. I've known him for years and I love him, but he begins all his worst stories with "it's interesting to note...". :D

Last time it was about wood burners and the wood people are supposed to burn in them but don't.
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I'd like to know more about wood burners and the wood people are supposed to burn in them but don't.
 
Dr Who has become the 'I'm a celebrity get me out of here' for B list actors.
Raise your profile then hope for some good offers to come in.
 
So forget Idris Elba.
1. They can't afford him
2. He doesn't need the profile boost.
 
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