Can't wait! OrangeFest is almost here!!

[cupid_stunt]

Not sure history works like that chuck

It does in the rest of the UK & the Republic, it's about time it works in NI, 15 years after the GFA.

 

[Pickman's model]

It does in the rest of the UK & the Republic, it's about time it works in NI, 15 years after the GFA.

We're not in 2013 now you know

 

[Rosemary Jest]

Good documentary.

The music is fucking shite though, they should at least learn some catchy tunes. And that fucking drumming... Jesus wept, it's like a load of hammering nails.

 

[cupid_stunt]

We're not in 2013 now you know

Indeed, life has moved on a bit for most, but for these bonfire freaks it seems to be moving backwards.

And, don't call me chuck! *lobs petrol bomb at PM*

 

[cupid_stunt]

The music is fucking shite though, they should at least learn some catchy tunes. And that fucking drumming... Jesus wept, it's like a load of hammering nails.

Indeed, lessons need learning...

 

[Buckaroo]

So, things we've learnt. They need to be told they're not really British and their drumming is shite. Tomorrow night is probably as good as time as any. Volunteers?

 

[DotCommunist]

My gammy leg is playing up. You go, I'll send moral support

 

[cupid_stunt]

My gammy leg is playing up. You go, I'll send moral support

Ditto.

 

[Buckaroo]

My gammy leg is playing up. You go, I'll send moral support

Funny coincidence, got three gammy legs playing up right now but I'l post something here when it's all over, in solidarity, maybe.

 

[Pickman's model]

Indeed, life has moved on a bit for most, but for these bonfire freaks it seems to be moving backwards.

And, don't call me chuck! *lobs petrol bomb at PM*

Yeh but you seem to be back there with your 15 years bit

 

[Pickman's model]

So, things we've learnt. They need to be told they're not really British and their drumming is shite. Tomorrow night is probably as good as time as any. Volunteers?

Sure they haven't gone away?

 

[likesfish]

Even carson realised he'd fucked up and created a nightmare in the 20s.

Possibly if partition hadn't happened the free states biggest cock ups letting the catholic church run everything and nuetrality regardless in ww2 wouldnt have happened as the prods would have had a moderating influence

 

[Buckaroo]

Even carson realised he'd fucked up and created a nightmare in the 20s.

"Carson disliked many of Ulster's local characteristics and, in particular, the culture of Orangeism, although he had become an Orangeman at nineteen. He stated that their speeches reminded him of "the unrolling of a mummy. All old bones and rotten rags."

 

[Fez909]

A British-born supervisor of mine once told me that NI actually reminded her of Liberia - precisely because of the in-your-face-ness of the Union flag.

Ignorant person here - what's the relevance/history with Liberia and the Union flag?

 

[Idris2002]

Ignorant person here - what's the relevance/history with Liberia and the Union flag?

Sorry, I should have made clear it is wasn't a direct connection. She just thought there were analogies between the NI protestant population reminded her of the Americo-Liberian elite in Liberia.

Especially when it came to waving the flag and that.

 

[Fez909]

Americo-Liberian

Like I said, ignorant person. Didn't realise this was a thing.

Do they want to be American ruled again? Or is it a class thing?

 

[Celyn]

Oh well, all is bad and still sad.

Here's Matt McGinn with a song that should make everybody happy. Or maybe not.

 

[Idris2002]

Like I said, ignorant person. Didn't realise this was a thing.

Do they want to be American ruled again? Or is it a class thing?

Class, ethnicity and regional identity at the same time. The ex-slaves settled there by the yanks in the 1840s considered themselves superior to the local African peoples of the interior.

This was ultimately a major factor in the civil war.

 

[geminisnake]

Northern Irish make Glaswegians sad.

they make this Glaswegian sad

 

[Idris2002]

And no, they don't want to American ruled (and it was always indirect anyway).

 

[Fez909]

And no, they don't want to American ruled (and it was always indirect anyway).

Thanks for the info

 

[William of Walworth]

If it pisses it down it might be

Pro-Orange reporting on the BBC suggests a dry night I fear ...

 

[LiamO]

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[LiamO]

Oh well, all is bad and still sad.

Here's Matt McGinn with a song that should make everybody happy. Or maybe not.

And why not? The melody of the Sash is nicked from an old Irisk folk song. Cunts can't even write their own choons

 

[DaveCinzano]

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I think we'll all need 12 steps by the time this is finally over

 

[Celyn]

Oh, you know that folk tunes are always wandering and meeting and changing. Tunes go along to the pub and then stumble back home, saying "O! This is not the set of words I went out with. Then again, it's all right ... "
I just thought this one a bit fun because Matt McGinn was kind of taking the piss about the sashy orangey people.

 

[Poi E]

Indeed, lessons need learning...

If wiki is to be believed, the tune for this is also used for a loyalist song, The Boyne Water. Songs do, indeed, change their uniform on a night out.

 

[cantsin]

Oh, you know that folk tunes are always wandering and meeting and changing. Tunes go along to the pub and then stumble back home, saying "O! This is not the set of words I went out with. Then again, it's all right ... "
I just thought this one a bit fun because Matt McGinn was kind of taking the piss about the sashy orangey people.

think it was Bob Dylan who said some songs drift off, put on new clothes, + find someone new to hang out with, you have to let go...( "let go" as in sit and watch the publishing royalties pour in in BD's case, understandably )

 

[DaveCinzano]

think it was Bob Dylan who said some songs drift off, put on new clothes, + find someone new to hang out with, you have to let go...( "let go" as in sit and watch the publishing royalties pour in in BD's case, understandably )

Whereas Page and Plant were forever poaching other people's friends

 

[newbie]

Twelfth 2017: Your ultimate guide to this year's celebrations

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"Bus services will operate a 'Holiday Timetable' on Wednesday, July 12 and Thursday, July 13. Rail services will run a Saturday service." Are these Bank Holidays? or do they all bunk off work or take annual leave or what? Lots of kids in the pictures, are schools closed?

I've never known why calendars mention the Battle of the Boyne as though it's of interest, although the one on my phone doesn't label either day as a BH.