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Can someone give me a link that helps me to prove the the Freeman on the land bullshit is nonsense.
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SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
one too many baked spuds with cheese and tuna and its straight off to the land of loon
Sorry folks, I didn't mean to stir up the shit with my post. I now have the answer to my question in a brief and concise form. It is an entry on Wikipedia that dismissed the whole phenomenon in a few sentences. If you look up "Freeman on the land" on Wikepedia the answer is there, complete with origin and history of the whole sad business.
I only asked the question because a friend of mine who should have known better started talking to me about the topic in a way that suggested he had fallen for it. The Wikipedia link should sort him out in short order.
I only asked the question because a friend of mine who should have known better started talking to me about the topic in a way that suggested he had fallen for it. The Wikipedia link should sort him out in short order.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
He was tolerable when he wasn't peddling quack cures, or playing the victim because people weren't sucking up his nonsense wholesale.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
A man who managed to run himself over with his own car. I think that says a lot about the sort of person who's into this stuff.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Normally I would regard jumped up goons being able to taser people as a Bad Thing. But in this instance it's funny as fuck.
MochaSoul
It's being enslaved of your own free will
No, it's not!
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
How come their schtick is the same in different countries with completely different legal systems?
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
I used to deal with a bloke who was into this freeman stuff - he said we couldn't evict him when he was in rent arrears as he was a freeman
we didn't in the end because he somehow convinced Housing Benefit to backdate a claim and it cleared the arrears he also kept going on about him being an Esquire and that he had ancient rights that could not be over ruled in court, I was looking forward to him explaining these ancient rights in court but it never got that far
we didn't in the end because he somehow convinced Housing Benefit to backdate a claim and it cleared the arrears he also kept going on about him being an Esquire and that he had ancient rights that could not be over ruled in court, I was looking forward to him explaining these ancient rights in court but it never got that far
fredfelt
Mostly unknown member
The Freeman of Oxford (more specifically Wolvercote) were given rights to graze their livestock on Port Meadow, as a thank you from King Alfred as they protected the land from invading Danes. These rights are enshrined in the Doomsday book.
The rights are still exercised by the commoners of Wolvercote. As a freeman you have grazing rights for horses and ponies on the meadow (there's also happy cows grazing, but these are owned by Binsey Farm).
You needed to have registered your rights and your animal with the council - and once a year on a variable date the animals are rounded up and animals grazing without rights are dealt with (somehow!).
The rights are still exercised by the commoners of Wolvercote. As a freeman you have grazing rights for horses and ponies on the meadow (there's also happy cows grazing, but these are owned by Binsey Farm).
You needed to have registered your rights and your animal with the council - and once a year on a variable date the animals are rounded up and animals grazing without rights are dealt with (somehow!).
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Did he believe that Court and the Judge are working under Oleron Law which is controlled by the Rule and Code of The Crown Templar commanded at the very top by the Knights of Malta since the destruction of the Templars in the 14th Century. Everyone must be made aware of the Magna Carta of 1215 and the English Bill of Rights of 1689! It was the Magna Carta coming out in 1215 which handed this Kingdom over from the Monarch (Moon Arch [Bridge]) to the Knights Templar as the Magna Carta was a breach of contract between the Pope (Pontifex Maximus [BRIDGE BUILDER]) ruling the World through his Temporal Power and the Monarch?Just remembering more stuff about him - he claimed he was an advocate of the kingdom of heaven on earth , claimed the law of the land did not apply to him . I think he had a rich father who didn't want him to live with him but helped him out financially
FridgeMagnet
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5t3IIa
Registered User
I didn't finish this yesterday but I've been thinking about it since
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
I'd guess Yes to that
5t3IIa
Registered User
Snort. The lols keep coming
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
I've heard the Magna Carta stuff before but not the Templar bit. So basically this ancient mystic legal power that can't be denied came through them? You'd have thought if it can't stop you being burned at the stake it's not going to be much use for your speeding ticket tbh.
lazythursday
Averagely-Known Member
Living in a valley with a lot of hippies, the Freeman stuff and associated bollocks rears its head every couple of years, seems to go in waves. Lots of vaguely anti-establishment people easily fall for it, and often local venues / groups end up publicising meetings about it not realising the danger of it.
Latest serious case I came across recently was a guy I met who claimed to have had a £25,000 debt removed by following the magic formula. When questioning him on it it seemed that a lot of this was perfectly sensible (sending letters in a certain form to prevent telephone harrassment, for instance, that are probably also used by legit debt advice people). It seems to me that the 'successes' are either due to none-FOTL legal arguments or the bank etc just deciding it's not worth the hassle of fighting some fruitbat.
Latest serious case I came across recently was a guy I met who claimed to have had a £25,000 debt removed by following the magic formula. When questioning him on it it seemed that a lot of this was perfectly sensible (sending letters in a certain form to prevent telephone harrassment, for instance, that are probably also used by legit debt advice people). It seems to me that the 'successes' are either due to none-FOTL legal arguments or the bank etc just deciding it's not worth the hassle of fighting some fruitbat.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
Breivik was a Templar fancier. This is bad news.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
Although he wasn't above using a sexist insult when he felt like it, especially when caught out.
Good times.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Well, the place doesn't seem in any way diminished for his absence...
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
True, Diamond does his best to fill the void left.
prunus
Tick tock.
Because it works equally well in all legal systems.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
True, that.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Can't argue with that I suppose.
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