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BigTom said:
iirc community service maximum is 300 hours, CAP will be 780 hours of community service. It's a bigger crime to be unemployed than to break the law.
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Except how would you do community service and be 'unemployed' at the same time? 16 hours a day? The only way thy could hope to supervise that is by gathering the poor together in some sort of 'work-houses' or 'work-camps'. :hmm: :(
 
treelover said:
Its always on a Sunday, the DWP/Grayling/Smith announce another one of their schemes/or ratcheting up one, why,

btw, now we know he has kowtowed to the private providers demanding more sick people shoould be forced to work, inc a private provider who was a key adviser in setting up the schemes and a Tory donor..

silence from the Labour Party again...
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Always a Sunday - and if it's a Sunday these are the ones they have thought about properly for oooh a week at least, not just made it up last week in the HOC bar and polished it off drinking pimms in the garden all weekend.
 
Time to bombard the media, social media, allies, etc with info and experiences on the ESA and the Atos medical test following the two TV programmes tonight: the undercover ATOS doctor on on Dispatches at 8pm Ch4 will be dynamite, for so long the DWP/Grayling have argued there are no targets, this programme destroys that position, the BBC 2 Panorama one at 8.30pm, with the awful title, 'Disabled or faking it?' I will reserve judgement on...
 
treelover said:
Time to bombard the media, social media, allies, etc with info and experiences on the ESA and the Atos medical test following the two TV programmes tonight: the undercover ATOS doctor on on Dispatches at 8pm Ch4 will be dynamite, for so long the DWP/Grayling have argued there are no targets, this programme destroys that position, the BBC 2 Panorama one at 8.30pm, with the awful title, 'Disabled or faking it?' I will reserve judgement on...
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/h...s-sending-sick-and-disabled-back-to-work.html

This article sounds like it could be positive - talking about a gut who died from a heart attack after being assessed fit to work (different person from the Birmingham dad whose story came out a month or so ago:

Stephen Hill was sent to his first Work Capability Assessment in 2010 when he gave up his job as a sandwich delivery man after being referred for tests on his heart.

His wife Denise, who was with him at the assessment, said: "She checked him out. She did his blood pressure and his heart and said to see a doctor as soon as possible."

Despite the assessor telling Mr Hill to seek urgent medical advice, he was still found fit for work. In the meantime doctors had diagnosed him with heart failure.

He won his appeal but he was ordered to attend another assessment.

"He got a letter for another medical and I couldn't believe it," said Mrs Hill. "He'd got to go for a medical when he was waiting for a heart operation."

But he was again declared fit for work, with the assessor declaring: "Significant disability due to cardiovascular problems seems unlikely."

Mr Hill died of a heart attack five weeks later.

The assessments are carried out by Atos Healthcare on behalf of the Department of Work and Pensions (DWP).

According to the programme, two and a half million people in the UK take the test because they are too illl to work.

But more than 176,000 cases go to appeal tribunals each year, costing the taxpayer an additional £50 million, a programme spokesman said.
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The commentariat/celebs are now making their views known, just now on the Wright Stuff, this is inevitable as the scale of it means everyone will have a relative/friend/colleague who will be affected: it seems mostly along the lines, ''the test is correct but wrongly applied''* the use the dichotomy of deserving such as the heart attack guy and un-deserving, the bad back brigade, druggies, etc..that ''there are scroungers, etc, but not my, fill in the blanks...''

still an improvement, public opinion is shifting, the Dispatches one will imo move it even further..
 
treelover said:
Disabled activists have held a “paupers’ picnic” in the lobby of the Houses of Parliament, to draw MPs’ attention to cuts they say are leaving many disabled people without enough money to feed themselves properly.
http://benefitscroungingscum.blogspot.co.uk/


When was this?, no media coverage at all, afaik,
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mid july, no media coverage that I saw, but I knew about it from dpac, sue marsh etc. on twitter & facebook.
 
Oh my.. Karen Sherlock just came up on my FB feed liking a page. Gave me such an odd feeling... I clicked on her page. Seems her poor husband has access to it and has posted this.

just a heads up to you folks out there. At the end of the week I'll be applying to FB to memorialize Karen's account. If anyone wishes to add Karen then do so but you need to send me a PM too to say who you are. No PM, no add.
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Sonia Poulton has put up a letter to Ed Milibland on google docs asking for people to sign it before it gets sent to him.

I can't get it to work as yet but anyone interested might do.

Sonia doc.
 
treelover said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...0-Brits-rake-30-000-year-housing-benefit.html

The extreme right winger Priti Patel has been stirring it up in the DM, this time about HB..
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excuse me while I quietly have an aneurism, as I sit here waiting for my child tax credit payment to clear into my bank account so that I can actually afford to do a food shopping, seeing as Housing Benefit naturally decided to suspend my claim because I told them I'd lost my job on the 19th, meaning they haven't paid my rent this month :facepalm:
 
weepiper said:
excuse me while I quietly have an aneurism, as I sit here waiting for my child tax credit payment to clear into my bank account so that I can actually afford to do a food shopping, seeing as Housing Benefit naturally decided to suspend my claim because I told them I'd lost my job on the 19th, meaning they haven't paid my rent this month :facepalm:
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Is it definitely on it's way weeps? *crosses everything*
 
Frankie Jack said:
Is it definitely on it's way weeps? *crosses everything*
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I can see the CTC payment in my account but it's not cleared yet, should be this afternoon sometime. I spoke to HB yesterday and as I suspected it's because the computer automatically suspends your claim as soon as you tell them about any change of circumstances until a decision-maker has processed it. It's in someone's personal in-tray supposedly so should get dealt with in the next day or two, but really, you couldn't make it up... I tell them I've lost my job so they decide not to pay me this month :facepalm:
 
stuff_it said:
Always a Sunday - and if it's a Sunday these are the ones they have thought about properly for oooh a week at least, not just made it up last week in the HOC bar and polished it off drinking pimms in the garden all weekend.
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Or at the 19th hole after a round of golf.
Bunch of self-satisfied cunts.

Hmm, this has given me an idea, though.

If a bit of preliminary research reinforces what I'm thinking, I'm going to be able to make a comparison between this programme and a certain other one that doesn't break Godwin's Law. :)
 
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