campaign against welfare cuts and poverty

[Pickman's model]

you what, the US war on poverty was in the 60's, we have had a form of the welfare state since 1911

yeh? the germans have had a form of welfare state since the later nineteenth century. and what about the auld poor law? do you think that wasn't a form of welfare state?

 

[Greebo]

oh just 50 thousand quid? is that all? would you be requesting the nightly rub and tug as well?

I'm not asking for luxuries - that's how much it would cost me to cover rent, council tax, commuting, workwear, utility bills (seeing as my husband is housebound), approximately 10 prescribed items per month, dentistry, and a Personal Assistant to do the housework, getting the prescription dropped off and collected, shopping, and seeing my husband to & from appointments (as well as carework). FYI the local council charges households who aren't on benefits £17 an hour for careworkers. Hence the outrageous amount I'd need to earn.

 

[andrew fanshion]

Yah, better to just mooch off everyone else imo.

 

[treelover]

Greebo, don't prostrate yourself in front of these RW libertarians...

 

[Greebo]

Greebo, don't prostrate yourself in front of these RW libertarians...

I'm not.

Yah, better to just mooch off everyone else imo.

How many hours a week do you do, oh proud worker? When do you finish work for the day?

 

[Frankie Jack]

The Welfare Reform Bill will now be passed. RIP The Welfare State.

 

[Frankie Jack]

Yah, better to just mooch off everyone else imo.

You sir need to

Fuck Off..!!

 

[BigTom]

I really hope the WRB will come back to haunt them in a big, big way.

 

[Greebo]

You sir need to

Fuck Off..!!

Alternatively, he can come here and do my work for 48 hours.

 

[Frankie Jack]

I really hope the WRB will come back to haunt them in a big, big way.

It will Tom. To many will be affected for it not to. The fight is going on. Many will be looking for help and advice. The WRB and the NHS are double Maggies (spit) poll tax and many times more brutal.

 

[Frankie Jack]

This was online before the old lords had risen from their seats tonight.

No more 'languishing on the dole' after welfare reforms, says David Cameron

Britain will never again put up with families “languishing on the dole and dependency” after an overhaul of the benefit system, David Cameron has said.

Published at 8:53PM GMT 29 Feb 2012. The cunts were ready and waiting.

Rage is what I feel right now. Past the tears and dissapointment stage..
These bastards have to go..!!

 

[treelover]

'Friday’s DWP report on Fraud and Error in the Benefit System really ought to get more coverage.
With this publication we now have figures for the whole of the financial year 2010/11, and they show:

• 0.8 per cent of benefit spending is overpaid due to fraud, amounting to £1.2 billion, and
• This proportion is the same as in 2009/10.

If we look at the estimates for different benefits, they are:

• Retirement Pension 0.0 per cent;
• Incapacity Benefit 0.3 per cent;
• Disability Living Allowance 0.5 per cent;
• Council Tax Benefit 1.3 per cent;
• Housing Benefit 1.4 per cent;
• Pension Credit 1.6 per cent;
• Income Support 2.8 per cent;
• Jobseeker’s Allowance 3.4 per cent;
• Carer’s Allowance 3.9 per cent.

Look at the figures for disability benefits, see how low the figures are.
Remember them next time the BBC is running one of its 30 minute hate programmes, pushing the idea that every disabled person on benefits is a fraudster.'

richard excell

http://liberalconspiracy.org/2012/02/26/new-figures-show-low-level-of-benefit-fraud/



New DWP figures, incredible, pensioners are supposedly fiddling more than disabled people, watch out OAP's, the media barrage will begin soon..

btw, as i have said before the misinformation and smear campaign the various Govt's launched are very reminscent of the propaganda campaigns of the old Eastern Bloc,

 

[purenarcotic]

I just can't believe the WRB has passed.

This is beyond depressing.

 

[Pickman's model]

I just can't believe the WRB has passed.

This is beyond depressing.

be the wra now

 

[BigTom]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...floors-Welcome-Cameron-s-Brave-New-World.html

Sonia Poulton in the Daily Mail.. I don't know if this is just online or if she is there as a commentator from the opposite side of the political specturm as papers often have.. but she's written a few very good articles around welfare state/disability

For millions of people, a Social Fund loan - yes it was repayable, it wasn't a gift - was the difference between sleeping on a bed or a floor. The MP's who voted to banish this have no understanding of such destitution and poverty. Not while they are able to subsidise the purchase of their country mansions with their parliamentary expenses.

The whole article - and it's pretty long - has this tone.. read it..

 

[Greebo]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...floors-Welcome-Cameron-s-Brave-New-World.html

<snip>The whole article - and it's pretty long - has this tone.. read it..

Thanks for the heads up, I might even bring myself to buy a copy.

 

[Roadkill]

Sonia Poulton is a rare voice of sanity atm.

 

[BigTom]

Thanks for the heads up, I might even bring myself to buy a copy.

It's not in print just look at it on the website.. perhaps if they are getting lots of hits for her articles they will give her print space

 

[stuff_it]

Oh, I see, "paywall" ...

sorry

Did you think it was a town in Wales?

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...floors-Welcome-Cameron-s-Brave-New-World.html

Sonia Poulton in the Daily Mail.. I don't know if this is just online or if she is there as a commentator from the opposite side of the political specturm as papers often have.. but she's written a few very good articles around welfare state/disability


The whole article - and it's pretty long - has this tone.. read it..

Why aren't her articles in the printed version?

I reckon she'll get the boot soon for sticking up for scroungers. It's just not Daily Mail stuff is it

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

and I want to know why Cameron claimed DLA for his sick child if he didn't need it and he's so anti-welfare. Are there any articles anywhere explaining why he claimed it?

 

[BigTom]

Why aren't her articles in the printed version?

I reckon she'll get the boot soon for sticking up for scroungers. It's just not Daily Mail stuff is it

She said that she has some stuff (femail and something else) in print. There's just a lot more space online isn't there, so not everything on line will make it into the print edition.

and I want to know why Cameron claimed DLA for his sick child if he didn't need it and he's so anti-welfare. Are there any articles anywhere explaining why he claimed it?

Cos he's a selfish cunt?

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

She said that she has some stuff (femail and something else) in print. There's just a lot more space online isn't there, so not everything on line will make it into the print edition.



Cos he's a selfish cunt?

Yes, I realise that, but it'll never get to all those readers who buy the printed version and believe all the scrounger stories that are in the printed version will it?

Well we know he's a selfish cunt but I was more interested if anyone (be it disabled, or a member of the press) has asked why he accepted the DLA for his kid

 

[BigTom]

Yes, I realise that, but it'll never get to all those readers who buy the printed version and believe all the scrounger stories that are in the printed version will it?

Well we know he's a selfish cunt but I was more interested if anyone (be it disabled, or a member of the press) has asked why he accepted the DLA for his kid

nope, which is a shame, I bet that lots of people who read the print edition don't read online..
as for Cameron, I've never seen anyone ask him, though I'm sure I've seen it mentioned in more than a few places. I doubt he would answer.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

nope, which is a shame, I bet that lots of people who read the print edition don't read online..
as for Cameron, I've never seen anyone ask him, though I'm sure I've seen it mentioned in more than a few places. I doubt he would answer.

He'd probably claim one of his aides or social services or whoever told him to claim it as the child was entitled and he was too busy to argue he didn't need it

 

[stuff_it]

nope, which is a shame, I bet that lots of people who read the print edition don't read online..
as for Cameron, I've never seen anyone ask him, though I'm sure I've seen it mentioned in more than a few places. I doubt he would answer.

He'd probably claim one of his aides or social services or whoever told him to claim it as the child was entitled and he was too busy to argue he didn't need it

More likely he felt that as he was a taxpayer (rather than a 'scrounger') that he was entitled to it, unlike people who have no money.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

More likely he felt that as he was a taxpayer (rather than a 'scrounger') that he was entitled to it, unlike people who have no money.

You mean unlike the people who were paying taxes before their accident/illness?

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Any of the females pregnant? Any of the men wanting to go on some celebrity show? Who's due to take a break for one reason or another?

 

[UrbaneFox]

More likely he felt that as he was a taxpayer (rather than a 'scrounger') that he was entitled to it, unlike people who have no money.

Or, Please, don't use Ivan to try to score cheap political points. My wife and I get very upset by such opportunistic cruelty.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Any of the females pregnant? Any of the men wanting to go on some celebrity show? Who's due to take a break for one reason or another?

oops! That's meant to be on the Corrie thread