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I had a message today from the mortgage company saying they were going to do a valuation. Do I need to arrange a separate survey myself?

You don’t need to, but you might want to for your own purposes. The mortgage company’s valuation is for them, and is simply designed to tell them (in effect) that if they had to repossess your place and flog it in auction they’d be more than likely to get their money back. That’s all they care about. It will have made a basic assessment that the place isn’t about to collapse, but not much more. Note also as it’s not made out to you you can’t claim on it if for instance the place does in fact collapse (and this should have been obvious).

You can have your own survey, at varying levels of detail, up to a few thousand pounds for a full structural. These will tell you (depending on the level of detail) about things that are or may be a problem that will require possibly expensive fixing. Whether to get one or not depends on what you might do with the information. One could potentially use it as a negotiating tool if eg expensive roof works are indicated. One could also use it to decide that one can’t afford the place after all (if eg expensive roof works are indicated, the seller won’t budge on price, and you know you won’t be able to afford them). One can use it as a to do list of things that you’ll need to do after you get it, with probably some kind of indication of the urgency.
You also get a level of protection if something bad happens that the surveyor should have noticed and didn’t - you can claim against the surveyors insurance. NB this usually has to be something so blindingly obvious that they missed that it rarely happens. But in theory it is there.
 
it's useful to get the private emails at the least of your buyer/seller.

We managed to do this when we moved back in 2006 (the estate agent inadvertently copied us in on an email). Without it the sale might well have fallen through - the vendor's solicitor was being an absolute arse and putting a massive unnecessary obstacle in the way of sale. I spoke to the vendor directly (we were getting on quite well by that point) and suggested to her that she didn't actually need to do what her solicitor was advising. She told us afterwards that it was the moment that she realised that she was the one in charge and that he was being an arse and after that it was plain sailing.
 
I had a message today from the mortgage company saying they were going to do a valuation. Do I need to arrange a separate survey myself?
Their valuer might be able to do a home buyers report at the same time at a bit of a cheaper rate if you ask.
 
I once ended up sitting with a van full of my worldly goods, unable to get into my new house as the vendors solicitor had taken the day off and no-one else in the office had authority to check the bank account. :facepalm:

Fortunately the vendor was a sensible sort and allowed me to move in anyway. Tense times though.
 
Surveyor has sent me an invoice - upon payment, I will get the report. Hope there are no nasty surprises in there.

You can share on here if you like if there’s anything that concerns you in the report - these things always sound much more scary than they actually are - the surveyors are covering their arses to a large extent by highlighting everything and anything. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a survey for instance that doesn’t mention damp in some form. Most of it’s nothing to worry about in my experience. Good luck!
 
I've got my report and there are no concerns and no signs of damp. :) Just says I should redecorate as it's a little tired. And have an electrician check the electrics. Boiler due for annual service at the end of the month (does that mean it'll happen and they will pay for it as I'm sure completion won't be done by then)?
 
I've got my report and there are no concerns and no signs of damp. :) Just says I should redecorate as it's a little tired. And have an electrician check the electrics. Boiler due for annual service at the end of the month (does that mean it'll happen and they will pay for it as I'm sure completion won't be done by then)?
Probably not unless you ask for and agree as much. It only really matters if it's still under warranty (ours is five years) and the warranty is transferable and it will be voided by being a bit late. Servicing is like £100 or something.
 
I've got my report and there are no concerns and no signs of damp. :) Just says I should redecorate as it's a little tired. And have an electrician check the electrics. Boiler due for annual service at the end of the month (does that mean it'll happen and they will pay for it as I'm sure completion won't be done by then)?
Ask for it. We did and they paid for it.
 
I've got my report and there are no concerns and no signs of damp. :) Just says I should redecorate as it's a little tired. And have an electrician check the electrics. Boiler due for annual service at the end of the month (does that mean it'll happen and they will pay for it as I'm sure completion won't be done by then)?

Well that’s a result then :) The thing about electrics is standard wording - the surveyor can’t check the electrics so they’re just saying get a pro in to do it.

You don’t have to though - if it’s got a modem consumer unit (with micro circuit breakers not fusewire holders) then the chances are good it’s been done ok. There should be a sticker on it saying when it was installed as well - anything post 1992 means it should have been done to the then code, which is good enough. As long as there’s nothing obviously dodgy, and you don’t find any old (eg fabric wrapped) cable runs It’s probably ok. All the above only my opinion and how I would decide whether to get it checked though; I’m reasonably confident with electrics so feel I know what I’m doing. I could be wrong of course! For the sake of about £100 for peace of mind you might choose to get someone in to look at it.

I doubt the seller will do the boiler service unless you specifically ask for it (and maybe not even then), but it shouldn’t be expensive if you have to cover it - and it’s a good sign that it’s been serviced in the last 12 months as well.

Was the place let out do you know? Given they’ve assiduously serviced the boiler I wonder if it was. If so, I’d worry even less about the electrics, as it will have had to be safety checked at some point in the last 5 years at most.

Are you sure there’s no mention of possible damp or missing damp proof courses anywhere...? I’m saddened :-( It’s like the favourite chorus has been removed from a beloved song.
 
Great info prunus. I'm planning to ask for a second viewing soon to take some photos and get a closer look (I wasn't very good at looking before, was a bit overwhelmed 😅) so will check the plugs and things then.

It was a council property and the couple bought it and lived there themselves.
 
I have just come into some money. So I can cash buy a small flat or studio just for me in London. Want to stay south of the river so will probably be looking at Croydon or maybe a bit further south as it is cheaper. Are there any other areas I could look in London (north or south?) Looking at around 200k and needs to have either a small garden, terrace or balcony.

Lots of great info in this thread.

depends really what you're after

anywhere further away from the underground tends to be cheaper, so chunks of south / south east london will fit that, but most suburban railway stations have at least a train every 15 minutes daytimes / peak hours.

although the Woolwich - Abbey Wood patch (including Thamesmead) has had prices inflated due to the 'impending' crossrail (that has been impending for quite a few years now)

and without knowing anything about your circumstances, bits of SE London that are just far enough away from a railway station to be less attractive to commuters and therefore cheaper - if you're not commuting to central london every day, then the idea of a shortish bus ride to / from the station when you do want to go to central london might not be a big deal.
 
Yes, I'd say don't assume that further out is cheaper in SE London. A place distant from a train station in zone 3 can be cheaper than somewhere close to a station in zone 6. The same is even true of going out of London. Anywhere that is a convenient commute will see quite similar prices to London properties. With a few exceptions when you get further out - Rochester/Chatham for example is cheaper, even though it's just commutable.
 
Are you sure there’s no mention of possible damp or missing damp proof courses anywhere...? I’m saddened :-( It’s like the favourite chorus has been removed from a beloved song.

It's almost a disappointment isn't it? :D

Great news miss direct, now all you have to do is agree a completion date to aim for with the solicitor and then hassle them every other day to make sure things are moving.

If the sellers are moving in with parents, there may be a deal to be had over white goods, curtains and maybe even furniture so when you go back, check if it's something you would consider or whether you just want shot of it. They will fill in a long list sent by your solicitor of what is going, what is staying and what could stay for an additional cost.
 
:D I’m annoying the estate agent showing the next door but one house, chatting with all the viewers

neighbour number 1 is catching them In the back garden over the fence

ALL FROM LONDON!
 
Reading the report in careful detail now (was teaching all morning). The only concern raised is about some home made fitted wardrobes that I should consider replacing. Can't even remember them and they're not visible on the photos on rightmove. There is no damp or condensation of any type. So that was an expensive few pieces of paper but all good.

I've been emailing the solicitor today and had quite a lengthy reply yet. Am seriously considering skipping the searches (as discussed earlier).
 
Reading the report in careful detail now (was teaching all morning). The only concern raised is about some home made fitted wardrobes that I should consider replacing. Can't even remember them and they're not visible on the photos on rightmove. There is no damp or condensation of any type. So that was an expensive few pieces of paper but all good.

I've been emailing the solicitor today and had quite a lengthy reply yet. Am seriously considering skipping the searches (as discussed earlier).

As it's a flat, it's worth considering. The local council website should have all the latest planning permission applications etc available online, so if anything is happening soonish in the vacinity in the area you can pretty much search for it yourself. Get the insurance as mentioned previously though.
 
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