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I've never actually finished Angel and I totes need to but I really heart Fred and Gunn and it makes me sad.

I love Wes but he was ace as badass Lilah-shagging Wes. No matter how much he loved Fred.
 
Glitter said:
Being completely off her chops would explain the short blonde hair....

Connor is ok in my book until he effectively shags his Mum.
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Yes it would! Love the bob but it's all bad after that. Which is a shame because she was a great character.

Ugh no Connor is just irritating angst.

You have to finish it - it's got spike! Eta: uhhhhhm, spoiler? :oops::D
 
Rebelda said:
Yes it would! Love the bob but it's all bad after that. Which is a shame because she was a great character.

Ugh no Connor is just irritating angst.

You have to finish it - it's got spike! Eta: uhhhhhm, spoiler? :oops::D
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Tbh none of the characters are very likeable individually. At least not for long. Especially Angel :D
But as an ensemble they can be great :)
 
kittyP said:
Tbh none of the characters are very likeable individually. At least not for long. Especially Angel :D
But as an ensemble they can be great :)
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I <3 the host. But yeah I agree, although I want desperately for Angel to be happy in a way I was never fussed about for Buffy (unless it was with spike natch).
 
I'm going to be controversial here but I hated Fred for ages :D I had warmed to her by the last series but there was something too much (though not exactly like) like quirky manic pixie girl about her. I had the fucking rage during that scene with Gunn where a big deal is made about her eating huge amounts of food whilst being tiny. It's just such a trope, and I was a bit disappointed with Joss for that.

Then she improves just before the doom happens :mad:
 
Agent Sparrow said:
I'm going to be controversial here but I hated Fred for ages :D I had warmed to her by the last series but there was something too much (though not exactly like) like quirky manic pixie girl about her. I had the fucking rage during that scene with Gunn where a big deal is made about her eating huge amounts of food whilst being tiny. It's just such a trope, and I was a bit disappointed with Joss for that.

Then she improves just before the doom happens :mad:
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No no no I loathed her too. Although I liked the episode with her parents and the way it addressed depression. Then it was like ok, ui guess you're alright i suppose and she goes and breaks Wesley's heart and gets all unconvincingly icky with Gunn. Agree with absolutely everything else you wrote too.

I realise this is a massive contradiction because I'm also cross that she didn't get to be brought back :facepalm: I've been ill for a fortnight and had nothing but buffy-verse for company, does it show? :oops::D
 
Agent Sparrow said:
I'm going to be controversial here but I hated Fred for ages :D I had warmed to her by the last series but there was something too much (though not exactly like) like quirky manic pixie girl about her. I had the fucking rage during that scene with Gunn where a big deal is made about her eating huge amounts of food whilst being tiny. It's just such a trope, and I was a bit disappointed with Joss for that.

Then she improves just before the doom happens :mad:
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I do remember thinking wtf with that but also that that wasn't Fred's fault iyswim?
 
Agent Sparrow said:
In more Buffy news I have been rewatching since series two for a while now and sadly am already half way through series 7. Every time I watch series 7 I decide that I love Andrew more and more. Not in seeing him as an honourable character but he's just so fucking comical. :D
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Sorry completely stupid reply as I had just seen that did you did watch Angel.

Did you finish Angel is what I meant to say?
 
kittyP said:
Sorry completely stupid reply as I had just seen that did you did watch Angel.

Did you finish Angel is what I meant to say?
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I have watched Angel a couple of times before but not sure if we still have it saved and I don't think it's on Netflix. Whilst it has it's moments it's also just not as good as Buffy :(

If I need more Joss action I may just watch Firefly again :D
 
Agent Sparrow said:
No, it was Mr Whedon's! I was just a bit cross at how he had written her. As I said, really tropey and a bit beneath him I thought.
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I guess that, even though he dealt so well with a lot of issues, some issues are off the radar sometimes for some people, no matter how good they are with that kinda stuff.
 
See I really didn't get on with Firefly.
I had no problem with it but it just didn't click and I found it boring from the beginning, :oops:
 
Agent Sparrow said:
No, it was Mr Whedon's! I was just a bit cross at how he had written her. As I said, really tropey and a bit beneath him I thought.
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Yep. And in the same season that they have an episode based around a baddie whose touch (etc) brings out pure misogyny in men. It's a) chilling - Wesley is just brrrr and then his sadness at the end :( - and b) Cordelia delivers such an awesome pep talk to Lilah who then shoots Billy. Gaah it's fantastic! Makes the naff stuff wrt Fred all the more annoying.
 
Rebelda said:
Yep. And in the same season that they have an episode based around a baddie whose touch (etc) brings out pure misogyny in men. It's a) chilling - Wesley is just brrrr and then his sadness at the end :( - and b) Cordelia delivers such an awesome pep talk to Lilah who then shoots Billy. Gaah it's fantastic! Makes the naff stuff wrt Fred all the more annoying.
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I was you. With better shoes.
 
Agent Sparrow said:
I have watched Angel a couple of times before but not sure if we still have it saved and I don't think it's on Netflix. Whilst it has it's moments it's also just not as good as Buffy :(

If I need more Joss action I may just watch Firefly again :D
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I'm going to be controversial now and say that buffy is overall winner but that angel's moments of genius are sometimes better than btvs's. Eta: for me i mean.
 
No I do get what you mean Rebelda.

Damn you all btw! I was knackered and going to bed and now I've just woke myself up by excitedly chatting shit about Buffy and Angel! :mad::D
 
Agent Sparrow said:
It would have been better if he had walked off with two hunky men, given the hints about his sexuality!

(Does that need to be in spoilers do we reckon?)
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I know what you mean but I also think, through both Buffy and Angel that was well implied and it left you with him being a totally over the top Watcher.
I think, maybe, if you had actually seen him walk off with men it would have spoiled it coz it was already known anyway iywim?
 
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