What impact do you think that would have on musicians, touring and the music/events industry?
They might learn other languages.
What impact would this have on the Irish border?
Yeah, bloody musicians, touring and music/events industry people, going over there and not speaking the language.
Even Nigel farage can order two beers and a packet of crisps in german
Everyone in Holland speaks English better than Britons ime.
Do I?
Totally agree.
The single best source of info at the moment is Ian and his team at UK E artsinfo - information for artists after Brexit
By "off-topic", then, I take it that you mean posts like the one below?
Here's how shitty fucking Brexit is still working out for bands right now:
Rock band White Lies forced to cancel Paris show ‘due to Brexit-related delays’
London-formed trio are the latest act to be hurt by Brexit red tapewww.independent.co.uk
That's about as on-topic as it gets.
How is it providing useful information for AS? Or, indeed, anybody? It’s a straight up bitch about Brexit. If you don’t want people discussing Brexit as a phenomenon, you have to apply that rule to both sides.That's about as on-topic as it gets.
I don't think a post could get any more on topic for a thread entitled, "Brexit - impact on musicians, touring and the music/events industry" as it literally highlights the impact of Brexit on musicians, touring and the music/events industry!
No, actually that is quite useful. If highlights a possible pitfall of equipment being delayed at the boarder. This is EXACTLY the sort of thing I want to know about. What isn't helpful is constant squabbling about what exactly is and isn't brexit. This is something that happened, don't care how much was and wasn't brexit, brexit is happening, and this happened at the boarder. That is enough for it to be a good thing for me to have on my radar and be aware of.
A. I'm always keen to hear about possible pitfalls. I like to be prepared, even if it is only mentally (for the worst case)
The more I think about this post, the funnier it gets. This is a thread about problems caused by Brexit and you're complaining that someone has mentioned problems caused by Brexit.
Of course, the UK’s post-Brexit trade deal with the European Union did not include any pan-European provisions for visa free touring, meaning artists and their crews face permit, carnet and other bureaucratic requirements as they tour the continent. Music industry trade groups raised these issues as soon as the trade deal was published at the end of 2020, with the government spending much of 2021 insisting it was looking for ways to tackle those issues.
Given COVID was still making touring impossible at that point there was a window of opportunity to mitigate the negative impact of Brexit on touring artists. But, alas, very little was done, and artists are now having to tackle those issues on the ground.
No, I’m saying that if you don’t want this thread to become a discussion of Brexit (something that I personally don’t actually mind in the slightest) then you want to cut out the posts that straight-up bitch about it with no substantive comment or detail. Otherwise, what do you expect to happen?
