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Brexit - impact on musicians, touring and the music/events industry
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spitfire
Walty McWaltface
Our keyboard player had a vintage amplifier (I can't remember what it was called, bees may know). It had a spinning part inside that created a very special sound. It was the size of a small wardrobe and very old so weighing it would be very difficult without specialist gear. Yes most stuff can be sorted with a bathroom scales and some get up and go but there's loads of big stuff that isn't so easily weighed. Vintage stacks, effects racks, mixing desks.
ATOMIC SUPLEX
Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3
I have absolutely no idea.
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hiraethified
That will be a Leslie cabinet.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Who said anything about it being easier? It's part and parcel of selling goods from the UK into the EU.
What do you think should be done (given that the UK isn't an EU country)?
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
That's the one!
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Take them to your local scrapyard, drop them a tenner and use their scales.
ATOMIC SUPLEX
Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3
Supposedly if you are travelling with your own gear as luggage you and the counties definition of 90 day visa also equals working visa (the terms appear to be interchangeable according to our government, who ask you to check for yourself to make sure), then you don't need a carnet for gear. This will only be good news for very small bands who don't need a van load of stuff or more. Might be a while before all the boarder patrols are down with this though. The finer details can seem vague and open to a little interpretation so may well lead to a bit of a hold up or worse.
ATOMIC SUPLEX
Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3
I use a plug-in, it's weighs so much less
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
To be honest I'm not in the game anymore but I have every confidence the extremely resourceful people that work in the live event industry will do this and many other creative solutions. I do still have friends working on the road so know they will adapt.
But as an "impact on musicians touring and the music events industry" it is definitely a thing that is now a pain in the arse that wasn't previously so if anyone is going to have a moan about it this would seem the right place. I just wanted to give some context as to why it isn't as straightforward or "easy" as suggested.
BRB off to start a thread on Brexit and its impact on food manufacturers exporting to the EU*. That's what I do now.
*hahaha no way fuck that
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
It's definitely not as straightforward as it was, that was to be expected, but I'm pretty sure Bahnhof Strasse's offer to provide a workaround for certain things was simply ignored. It seems some people would rather just moan about it than try to find a way to make things easier.
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
Well I'm staying out of that particular ding dong for one.
I think Bahnhof Strasse offer was more related to people movement rather than kit? Would be interested to see if he knows about the previous convictions playing a part in the new visa scheme thing.
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hiraethified
He had absolutely nothing constructive or useful to offer small bands touring Europe, despite professing to know best.
I'd rather take my advice from actual working musicians in bands, or the Musicians Union or the person who books our European tours. They really do know best.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Thanks for posting suggestions but really you needn’t have bothered.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Hey there have been multiple protests that the admin is too complicated for small bands. It’s not unreasonable to ask how long this would likely be.
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hiraethified
You'd think on a left leaning board, posters would unanimously unite to empathise, understand and support struggling musicians who risk losing their livelihoods because of government bureaucracy.
Instead, there's been calls for them to give up and get another job, endlessly whataboutery playing down the actual impact of these new rules, and a load of shit about moaning bands supposedly 'evading tax' on small amounts of merchandise. It's like the fucking Daily Mail here at times.
Instead, there's been calls for them to give up and get another job, endlessly whataboutery playing down the actual impact of these new rules, and a load of shit about moaning bands supposedly 'evading tax' on small amounts of merchandise. It's like the fucking Daily Mail here at times.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
This is because Brexit is a cult.
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
Don't they always though?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Have any songs been written about the difficulties musicians are facing? Perhaps in the style of the blues
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
Woke up this morning
Brexit is under way
Gotta do all sorts of paperwork
Just in France to play
mojo pixy
...שלא נמצא בשמאל
Yeah well most of us don't own a website where we can go "What about me, what about me?" day in day out, while we promote our endeavours as much as we like without having to ask permission. So swings and roundabouts really.
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hiraethified
If me posting on one thread about something that directly affects my career bothers you so much, feel free to ignore it. There's literally tens of thousands of other threads for you to choose from so there's no need to keep whining here.
Oh, and plenty of regulars here have used the boards to promote their own 'endeavours' too, so I've no idea what your big, killer point is.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
It was more people with their own kit. As a result I am £270k up on where I was last year, but one drummer’s rage led him to be so fucking rude to me that I gave up speaking with him, he replies to me as the thick cunt doesn’t understand what ignore means he and his band can stagnate whilst my customers can flourish.
^^^travelling across Europe in the front row today, enjoying our Brexit bonus…
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Just landed back at Heathrow, two new Belgian companies sick of Brexit want to be my customers in the space of one flight
no one available to operate the air bridge, Covid apparently but obviously Brexit…
mojo pixy
...שלא נמצא בשמאל
Just following the sitemaster's example.
Only one poster gets to start an entire thread promoting their own band, or have the rules changed? Did you ask permission? From yourself?
No advertising. We are not interested in hearing about your company/website/club/gig/song/product. This is a non-profit, community discussion forum, not a free advertising resource and offenders will be banned.
You may advertise gigs/events/parties but you must obtain permission from a moderator first.
I didn't realise that was necessary. If it is, there's a lot of tidying that needs doing around here.
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hiraethified
When I started that thread I wasn't in the band, and hadn't been for 16 years, you fucking clueless muppet.
I was a fan of the band - as are some of the posters here - and didn't join them until eight years after the thread was started. By God, you've just made a twat of yourself.
Oh, and there's long been a policy of it being OK for community members to post up details of their gigs/club nights. It's great that the site can support them.
Here's just one example for you to get suitably red faced about. There's plenty more.
ATOMIC SUPLEX june 4th SSSSHoreditch
I thought i would give everyone a chance to come to this last minute gig, everyone can come for free. Atomic Suplex at the Old Blue Last, Shoreditch. it is the first concert since the Japanese tour. we are on early, at 9! other bands playing are Lord Auch and The Sticks. in case you have...
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