yeah really.
Brexit - impact on musicians, touring and the music/events industry
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hiraethified
I've worked in advertising and marketing too. Some has been corporate, some has been for charity and some has been helping advertise small independent businesses. Without that work I wouldn't have been able to survive, but I certainly learnt a lot about creative processes on the way.
I guess I'm 'lowlife' too.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Of course it does. I'd add in writers and designers to the mix as well. Sometimes you can't afford to turn down work for a marketing company. You're fortunate to be able to make that choice.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Me too. At the time it was very welcome income. I didn't particularly want to do it, but we can't all afford to be massively choosy.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
My genuine sympathy is eroded knowing you all whore yourself to the advertising industry. Shocking to know how pervasive the practice is.
actually he's probably not doing much of this at the moment. Hopefully he'll have been able to get some government support to pay his rent and feed his children over the last year.
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hiraethified
There seems to be this notion that advertising is all about ruthless companies trying to persuade people to buy goods they can't afford. It's not. Advertising - and marketing - can also be about helping a local family business survive, or letting people know about useful services and local charities etc.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
All musicians should have just joined Crass.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
having one or two musicians would have been an improvement
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Starry Wisdom
you say that like it's a bad thing
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
like advertising executives
TopCat
Putin fanboy
You would never see Penny Rambo selling tunes for Shake ‘n Vac.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
What? Advertising and marketing?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
this thread could do with a spot of that, do the shake n vac and put the freshness back
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hiraethified
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i wonder what his views on brexit are
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
TopCat
Putin fanboy
He was wrong about a lot of things. Political violence for one.
Not surprised about COVID conspiracy though. Too much time down the rabbit hole.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Yes. I’d go so far as to say that without the “corporate” income propping things up for people a significant percentage of the art and music you love wouldn’t exist.
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hiraethified
The hope:
The government has said it hopes to open negotiations with individual EU countries "very shortly" to help UK artists to tour after being told Brexit had created an "absolute crisis".
Musicians, actors and their crews will face extra red tape and fees for visas to tour in some European countries.
Speaking to MPs on Tuesday, arts figures said ministers must "act now".
The reality:
Culture minister Caroline Dinenage said there were no current talks to reach agreements with individual countries.
The government has said it hopes to open negotiations with individual EU countries "very shortly" to help UK artists to tour after being told Brexit had created an "absolute crisis".
Musicians, actors and their crews will face extra red tape and fees for visas to tour in some European countries.
Speaking to MPs on Tuesday, arts figures said ministers must "act now".
The reality:
Culture minister Caroline Dinenage said there were no current talks to reach agreements with individual countries.
UK to appeal to individual European countries over arts touring 'crisis'
The government says it hopes to open negotiations with individual European nations "very shortly".
www.bbc.co.uk
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Starry Wisdom
yeh that's what they mean when they say they will open negotiations shortly, that there are no negotiations currently. why this should surprise you is bemusing.The hope:
The government has said it hopes to open negotiations with individual EU countries "very shortly" to help UK artists to tour after being told Brexit had created an "absolute crisis".
Musicians, actors and their crews will face extra red tape and fees for visas to tour in some European countries.
Speaking to MPs on Tuesday, arts figures said ministers must "act now".
The reality:
Culture minister Caroline Dinenage said there were no current talks to reach agreements with individual countries.
UK to appeal to individual European countries over arts touring 'crisis'
The government says it hopes to open negotiations with individual European nations "very shortly".www.bbc.co.uk
mojo pixy
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Penny Rimbaud said:
I visited Dial House in 2008 with a friend who knew Crass years before, and while I don't want to get into talking about individuals who aren't here to answer back, I smelt a definite whiff of conspiracism in the air. Around that time was as close as I ever got to falling down the rabbit hole myself, when the Occupy tent city popped up a year or two later it became clear that more and more previously 'good' people were falling every day. That year or two was possibly the most depressing time of my life, in terms of political ideals and how I perceived the possiblity of making them reality. It's no better now, I just think I've got used to it.
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hiraethified
They've had fucking years to prepare for this.
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Starry Wisdom
i would have thought that the six years of tory rule prior to the referendum, not to mention the period 1979-1997, would lead you to moderate your expectations. it's not really news they're crap.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
Well, not on the BBC.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
A listings page on the web?
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