danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
I don’t think that’s a turnaround in their stance at all; it’s simply an explanation of their priorities.
Priorities which have already been remarked upon on these boards (by myself and others).
BREXIT Crunch time (part 38) WTF is going to happen next?
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Priorities which have already been remarked upon on these boards (by myself and others).
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
With plan A going so well, why bother?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
There is a certain fitting irony to it though. The DUP were the only party in parliament to campaign for leave.
It also pleases me to see consequences for May for entering into an agreement with them.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Oh, it’s hilarious. No doubt about it.
happie chappie
Well-Known Member
Well if you didn't vote you can't complain about the outcome.
Poot
My wife thinks I work too hard
I don't think that's true at all.
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
MPs cant force out through the official process till december - but if the cabinet and the majority of mps tell her to fuck off and they wont serve under her she doesn't really have a choice. She will try to cling on for a bit yet - but i would be amazed if shes still there in two weeks time (unless she somehow gets her deal through).
Not sure what happens if she trys to trigger and election - i cant see the tories wanting her leading the campaign - but if they turf her out its civil war.
Poot
My wife thinks I work too hard
Or were you being ironic? I lose track on this thread
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Utter tosh
andysays
Love and solidarity
It's not just that she has no alternative policy in mind, it's that she clearly has no alternative plan in mind for actually delivering Brexit ie getting some sort of deal through parliament.
Going to the brink and dragging everyone - party, country, etc - over the edge with you doesn't count as a meaningful strategy in my book.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Pretty sure that was irony.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
There's more of an argument that if you did take part you agreed to the process and result than that your claim people who for whatever reason didn't want to take part can have no issue with the result
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
I hope you're right but am not persuaded you are
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
From now on I’m going to be a glass half full kind of a guy.
gosub
~#
Plan B is laid out in Art 50 - in the event of not being able to reach a deal, we leave without one.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Which MPs failed to prevent when they didn’t back the repeal of Art 50 if a no deal scenario looms. Although they could still do that at the time. Not that there’s the numbers for anything. No plan has enough support.
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
That is legally accurate but May has clearly rowed back from that in recent weeks.
But it cant work unless she looks serious? That doesn't mean theres no plan b. It just means she hasn't told you what it is.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Their minds may be concentrated in the next few days
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Well, to the extent that it was one of the threats she was making yesterday, I don’t think she has. It’s her bargaining stance with parliament (not the EU as first supposed).
True but I'd be very, very surprised if she had one. Or one that was vaguely plausible.
andysays
Love and solidarity
I get what you're saying, but I really don't think she has any idea beyond yet another vote on her deal. She's like a WW1 general sending yet another division of infantry over the top to charge against the machine guns.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Everyone & anyone can complain all they like and who the fuck are you to say otherwise?
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
I don’t think her heart’s in the bluff. She’s not a Mad Max libertarian like Patterson or Redwood. She’ll have been briefed about the chaos of no deal and will know that it’ll be on her if it happens.
It still *could* happen though. It’s just I think she’s more likely to go for another extension first.
The narrative of truculant incompetence is a very attractive one, but I dont believe it. Which isn't to say that May's strategy will work, or that she hasn't possibly got lots of things wrong.
I think the nature of the political moment is that there isn't necessarily any strategy that will work though. So whatever May or any other replacement leader does, they'll be viewed by history to have fucked right up.
maomao
普費斯
She's clearly more interested in her party and her "legacy" than she is in a stable economy. If she drags us to no deal then for a certain group of people she'll forever be the PM that defeated the traitors and gave us Brexit rather than the abject failure she'll be remembered as otherwise.
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Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
This is also true.
From a Tory perspective, holding the party together is probably the most important thing for a long term stable economy, as if they dont the result will be a majority Labour government under Jeremy Corbyn. Everything the leadership is doing needs to be viewed through this prism (theres a similar but opposite prism on the Labour side)
rubbershoes
not the only raver in the village
Can I offer you a top up, Danny
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