teuchter
je suis teuchter
Pubs with royalist names, and the people who drink in them - what's difficult to understand?
BrewDog: yet another hip company using 'rebel' language to sell its stuff
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brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
I see.
What I find difficult to understand is how you're establishing the support and promotion of the RF by customers who frequent the many pubs with royalist names. Also what relevance your strange theory has to do this thread. That's all.
krtek a houby
Anger is Hi-NRG
If you drink in the bricklayers arms, does that mean you support bricklayers or arms? Or arming bricklayers?
teuchter
je suis teuchter
It's just the same as declining to drink Brewdog beers with names that you feel are offensive or indeed decline to giving Brewdog any money because you disapprove of the company's conduct in general.
If you don't find the Royal Family or their conduct offensive, and are happy to encourage publicans who choose to provide them with free advertising and propaganda, then there's not a problem. Hand over your cash to these establishments in clear conscience.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
Yeah, top bantzIt's just another pathetic attempt to get the thread back to trolling and belittling those who give a shit about others, their working conditions and a company that takes the piss on many levels
but, you know, bantz
krtek a houby
Anger is Hi-NRG
Nah
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Is that still there? Used to have lunch there 25 years ago when I worked nearby.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
I'll tell you what, I'll just go down to East Kent and get my old Mum out of the QEQM ("Cheerful Sparrows" ward).
Christ you've come out some shite, here; must be deliberate trolling.
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hiraethified
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As has been documented multiple times. Brewdog's staff have to work in a racist, sexist, ableist, bullying, unsafe, toxic workplace that leaves them exhausted, feeling unsafe and in tears.
If anyone thinks that they can treat this as a big fucking joke better be prepared to receive warnings, which will then turn into temp bans if they continue to disrupt this thread.
I think it's time to start issuing warnings to any further obvious attempts at trolling in this thread.
As has been documented multiple times. Brewdog's staff have to work in a racist, sexist, ableist, bullying, unsafe, toxic workplace that leaves them exhausted, feeling unsafe and in tears.
If anyone thinks that they can treat this as a big fucking joke better be prepared to receive warnings, which will then turn into temp bans if they continue to disrupt this thread.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Of course it is.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Thread ban incoming, then.Of course it is.
pesh
Well-Known Member
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Is that the Thai caff that does full English in the mornings?
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Is there room on this thread for other hospitality businesses with horrendous policies that fuck over their staff?
amp.theguardian.com
London restaurant chain adds ‘brand charge’ as it bans tipping by card | Hospitality industry | The Guardian
Ping Pong criticised for introducing optional 15% months before new law will ensure workers get 100% of tips
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Is there room on this thread for other hospitality businesses with horrendous policies that fuck over their staff?
London restaurant chain adds ‘brand charge’ as it bans tipping by card | Hospitality industry | The Guardian
Ping Pong criticised for introducing optional 15% months before new law will ensure workers get 100% of tips
I haven’t trusted chain restaurants to pass service charges on to staff for years and used to ask for it to be removed so I can tip in cash. A waitress in Zizzi pointed out to me that servers who have the charges removed from the bill get hauled in and bollocked by management, so I’ve stopped doing that. I always ask them if they get the service charge though, and most of them do say yes, but you don’t know if that’s under duress.
I wouldn’t think twice about knocking this charge off the bill at Ping Pong, if I went there but all of their food is frozen and reheated, so I don’t.
ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
With so many people not taking cash out with them now, it's a real concern whether staff actually get the tips that customers add to their card payment.
I always try to remember to take cash out with me for tips because I just don't trust restaurants and bars to pass the tips to the people they were meant for.
I always try to remember to take cash out with me for tips because I just don't trust restaurants and bars to pass the tips to the people they were meant for.
I've very oocasionlly seen a tip jar on bars for bar staff. A pub I use used to do it. I rarely tipped though cos it just seems a minefield. How much to tip. 15% every time you get a pint... Just the loose change but not less than 5p coins... Why am I tipping when I've come up to the bar. Would rather buy them a drink now and then. They can keep the money rather than pour themselves one, whatever they want.
The only time I've been to New York as a student, we got called out by the bar staff in one place for not leaving a tip... None of us were ofey with the ettiquette.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Probably because it's more common to tip bar staff in countries where drinks are tabbed and paid for once at the end of the session, like the US and much of Europe. In UK pubs we normally pay for each round as we go, and more commonly offer to buy the barman "a drink" once in a while if we know them or they've been particularly friendly. You wouldn't do that every round though because it would cost a fortune.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
That's useful, but the costing a fortune bit doesn't really make sense, if you think about it. If you tipped say 10% of every round you bought at the end of the session you'd still have only tipped 10% of your expenditure, like when you tip 10% on the totality of the restaurant bill?
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
You’d have to buy a 10 drink round for thst to happen though
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Traditionally there's no facility to do that for pub drinks though, is there? Restaurants present you with a bill with a service charge added, or you add your own tip, once, based on the combined cost of your food and drinks. If you buy the barman "a drink" every round, you're going to be tipping a lot more than 10% unless they're very big rounds.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Agreed. I was just interested why we've ended up with this cultural norm of tipping some low-paid hospitality workers and not others.
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