BrewDog: yet another hip company using 'rebel' language to sell its stuff

[belboid]

I'm not sure they did.

well, you're either dim with a rubbish memory (as it was discussed upthread) and lousy searching abilities (just google Brewdog trees) or you are simply dishonest. I would accept you being both.

"Every multipack of Brewdog buys one tree"

Buy One Get One Tree - BrewDog

www.brewdog.com

 

[teuchter]

well, you're either dim with a rubbish memory (as it was discussed upthread) and lousy searching abilities (just google Brewdog trees) or you are simply dishonest. I would accept you being both.

"Every multipack of Brewdog buys one tree"

Buy One Get One Tree - BrewDog

www.brewdog.com

The bit you've put in quotes is not a quote from the page you linked to.

Also the page you linked to has nothing to do with the scheme in the Cairngorms.

Did you accidentally post the wrong link?

 

[Spymaster]

well, you're either dim with a rubbish memory (as it was discussed upthread) and lousy searching abilities (just google Brewdog trees) or you are simply dishonest. I would accept you being both.

"Every multipack of Brewdog buys one tree"

Buy One Get One Tree - BrewDog

www.brewdog.com

You need to read what you’ve quoted there and then apologise to Teuchter.

 

[belboid]

The bit you've put in quotes is not a quote from the page you linked to.

Also the page you linked to has nothing to do with the scheme in the Cairngorms.

Did you accidentally post the wrong link?

oh, sorry its say, in big fat letters 'plant [not buy] one tree' What a massive difference.

And, as discussed in the TV programme, it's a big fat lie.

 

[Spymaster]

oh, sorry its say, in big fat letters 'plant [not buy] one tree' What a massive difference.

Not only does it not say what you’re pretending it does, but it also refers to a completely different project!

 

[belboid]

Not only does it not say what you’re pretending it does, but it also refers to a completely different project!

It's the same project in a different place. Here's a different article about it and their false claims BrewDog to plant one tree for every multi-pack sold in 2021

 

[editor]

No. What would be the point?!

Anything to deflect criticism from the bunch of sexist, staff abusing, union-hating bosses at Brewdog, I guess. It's quite sad seeing such tragic fanboyism trying to excuse this bunch of cunts.

 

[NoXion]

There's actually quite a good blog post here for anyone with a genuine interest in understanding what Brewdog are doing right and wrong with their forest plans.

The state of the western Cairngorms (6) - BrewDog's "Lost Forest"(1) - parkswatchscotland

I have stretched the meaning of the “Cairngorms” in this series of posts, half of which have featured land west of the A9, and I am going to stretch it even further in two posts which take a look at Brewdog’s proposals to create a “Lost Forest” on the Kinrara estate which they bought earlier...

parkswatchscotland.co.uk

Although there's certainly some element of greenwash involved, Brewdog aren't unique in purchasing land for greenwash purposes.

Nobody on this thread said they were the only ones doing it. The problem is that BrewDog (and others) aren't putting their money where their mouth is. They're not only doing performative greenwashing that completely ignores their own industrial processes, they're also doing it at the taxpayer's expense. More than "some element" of greenwashing I'd say.

 

[NoXion]

It would be to generate constructive debate.

You don't know what the fuck that even is.

 

[equationgirl]

"BrewDog says it aims to plant 1.1 million native trees to the area in the Lost Forest project and is now waiting for a decision on a grant from the Scottish government."

Why can't they just pay for it themselves?

All the big companies chase grants from Scottish Enterprise, which is the enterprise agency north of the border. There's no equivalent at a national level south of the border as far as I am aware.

Grants are supposed to encourage job creation and job growth but it's very much smoke and mirrors. Different regions within Scottish Enterprise will also compete internally against other, for example a big distiller threatened to close a massive bottling plant in the south west of Glasgow as it had been offered a better deal to transfer the bottling plant to Tayside. Of course, not everyone who works in the Glasgow area wants to or even can move to Tayside. The unions got involved.

Eventually something was worked out and jobs were saved in the Glasgow area.

So that bit of what they're doing, not to excuse them but they are only doing what other large corporations are doing.

 

[teuchter]

It's the same project in a different place.

No it's not. It's a different project in a different place. You do need - urgently - to apologise for calling me dim and dishonest, or find some proof to support your claims.

edited to add - this below also needs to apologised for and/or retracted. Don't be urban's Boris Johnson.

a lazy twat, failing at being Mr Contrary

 

[teuchter]

Nobody on this thread said they were the only ones doing it. The problem is that BrewDog (and others) aren't putting their money where their mouth is. They're not only doing performative greenwashing that completely ignores their own industrial processes, they're also doing it at the taxpayer's expense. More than "some element" of greenwashing I'd say.

Thanks for not taking the time to read my post, as usual.

 

[belboid]

No it's not. It's a different project in a different place. You do need - urgently - to apologise for calling me dim and dishonest, or find some proof to support your claims.

edited to add - this below also needs to apologised for and/or retracted. Don't be urban's Boris Johnson.

ohh fuck off you sad liar. You are really shit at this.

 

[Spymaster]

It's the same project in a different place. Here's a different article about it and their false claims BrewDog to plant one tree for every multi-pack sold in 2021

No it isn't. And again you've either not read (or misread) what you're linking to.

Is this a new strategy of yours; post up any old bollocks and pretend it supports whatever guff you're spouting?

 

[NoXion]

Thanks for not taking the time to read my post, as usual.

Maybe try not to include so much irrelevant dribble next time.

 

[brogdale]

So the twats are getting taxpayers to pay for the trees they plant on the land they've borrowed money to buy as a tax dodge...and some sap customers are buying into the "green"?

 

[tonysingh]

PETA are wankers too, albeit in a different way to BrewDog. Watching one attack the other is like watching two uncles you despise having a fight. Much like the tagline to Aliens v Predator, whoever wins, we lose. Fuck the pair of them.

 

[Spymaster]

So the twats are getting taxpayers to pay for the trees they plant on the land they've borrowed money to buy as a tax dodge...and some sap customers are buying into the "green"?

Genius innit?

 

[killer b]

fairly sure a grant from the scottish government won't pay for the whole thing guys

 

[Pickman's model]

No it's not. It's a different project in a different place. You do need - urgently - to apologise for calling me dim and dishonest, or find some proof to support your claims.

edited to add - this below also needs to apologised for and/or retracted. Don't be urban's Boris Johnson.

You're urban's Nadine Dorries. Only without her wits and charm

 

[Spymaster]

fairly sure a grant from the scottish government won't pay for the whole thing guys

No no no. It's definitely 100% straight out of the mouths of Scottish widows and orphans. And kittens.

This is Brewdog after all.

 

[brogdale]

Genius innit?

Those who created the legislative environment or those exploiting it?

 

[teuchter]

So the twats are getting taxpayers to pay for the trees they plant on the land they've borrowed money to buy as a tax dodge...and some sap customers are buying into the "green"?

Even you fell for it!

 

[brogdale]

Even you fell for it!

Eh?

 

[teuchter]

Eh?

Actually my apologies, I got you mixed up with belboid because you both begin with B and post the same kind of thing.

It was belboid who fell for it.

 

[belboid]

fairly sure a grant from the scottish government won't pay for the whole thing guys

The point is they’re not going to pay for it all, as they very strongly implied (at the very least). And getting us to pay for their tax dodge is scummy AF.

 

[Spymaster]

The point is they’re not going to pay for it all, as they very strongly implied (at the very least). And getting us to pay for their tax dodge is scummy AF.

 

[brogdale]

Actually my apologies, I got you mixed up with belboid because you both begin with B and post the same kind of thing.

It was belboid who fell for it.

Apologies accepted, though the passive aggressive stuff isn't necessary or appreciated.

 

[equationgirl]

fairly sure a grant from the scottish government won't pay for the whole thing guys

It would not. It would be a maximum of 40 to 50% (iirc) of the total amount of eligible costs, and not every cost is considered eligible. Brewdog would also have to make sure that they were not breaching state aid funding limits, as that is a whole world of pain if you do

 

[Funky_monks]

BrewDog criticised for plans to cull wildlife at Lost Forest estate

The brewery's emission reduction plan aims to plant 1.1 million trees in the Highlands

www.insider.co.uk

Looks to me like it's PETA that have lost the plot here, as the land management policies aren't determined by Brewdog and follow standard guidance.

Imagine planting a crop and not wanting it to be destroyed......