'Bleeding' vegan burger is an 'existential threat' to beef' whines NZ MP

[8ball]

Fermented soy is meant to be superior, bt i've never seen it on sale anywhere. personally i don't see the point of eating it as I'm not a vegan. There are, I think, some issues. Whether they live up to the bullshit spouted by the Paul Joseph Watsons of the world is another question. Besides he peddles Alex Jones' brain pills.

Which contain

Soy

"Fermented soy" covers a broad range of stuff: List of fermented soy products - Wikipedia
I use miso paste in cooking quite a lot, including sometimes when cooking stuff that has meat in it.

If I remember correctly, miso soup is what Kikunae Ikeda had in mind when he coined the term "umami".*

* - that might be wrong, but I def remember reading it somewhere

 

[gentlegreen]

I use soy milk, yoghurt, tofu, miso, shoyu and tamari.
I buy tempeh occaisionally, but have yet to justify the high price.

I'm hoping to get into gourmet fungi later, so perhaps will make my own soy milk and use the left over "okara" for tempeh ...

I hope to model my future diet on Okinawa - though with sefood in place of pork.

 

[Proper Tidy]

It's just food lads. Enzymes and antinutrients, wtf. Have a pringle

 

[Artaxerxes]

It's just food lads. Enzymes and antinutrients, wtf. Have a pringle

I think we can all agree pringles aren't food.

 

[gentlegreen]

Enzyme tip of the day.

There is a much-perpetuated tinfoil hat myth that microwave cooking (specifically) destroys nutrients - in particular a chemical in broccoli and other crucifers called sulphurophane that has been mooted as having anti-cancer properties.
The truth is that ALL cooking destroys this - so frozen broccoli is deficient before you even get it - even blanching will do this.
The chemical is produced by the plant in response to insect attack and what is ACTUALLY denatured by cooking is an enzyme that does the magic.

So, although it may be aesthetically damaging, the secret is to chop the broccoli up fine and leave it for 20 minutes for the chemistry to happen. The sulphurophane is tolerant of cooking - and microwaving is potentially the kindest form of cooking for all nutrients.

Of course you could also just whizz it up raw - and broccoli sprouts have the highest level.

From my research, I am happy to call cruciferous green veggies genuine "superfoods" and I try to eat some every day.

 

[Poot]

I'd never heard of a soyboy. It was interesting. A bit like the final insult that you would use if your ego was so fragile that it was in danger of crumbling completely and being sucked up by your own arsehole.

It's also a sign (imo) that things are changing and that a certain section of meat eaters is feeling threatened.

 

[8ball]

It's also a sign (imo) that things are changing and that a certain section of meat eaters is feeling threatened.

I think it’s also that a good portion of what we might call the “alt right” needs to define itself in opposition to anything they perceive the “other side” as doing, or not doing.

 

[Rivendelboy]

I'd never heard of a soyboy. It was interesting. A bit like the final insult that you would use if your ego was so fragile that it was in danger of crumbling completely and being sucked up by your own arsehole.

It's also a sign (imo) that things are changing and that a certain section of meat eaters is feeling threatened.

I think it' smore that meat eating is erroneously being seen as part of toxic masculinity culture. I strongly reject that association

 

[Proper Tidy]

Well I don't think eating meat is a sign of anything really, it's normal human behaviour, although MEAT!!!! people are often dicks

 

[Artaxerxes]

I think it' smore that meat eating is erroneously being seen as part of toxic masculinity culture. I strongly reject that association

It's certainly got links to it, all that fetishistic love of steak and rugged man the hunter or weightlifters after the protein kick.

I think it was that C4 Eden program where 4 or 5 lads got together and into a very toxic headspace of "hunting" and meat eating and bullying.

 

[Rivendelboy]

It's certainly got links to it, all that fetishistic love of steak and rugged man the hunter or weightlifters after the protein kick.

I think it was that C4 Eden program where 4 or 5 lads got together and into a very toxic headspace of "hunting" and meat eating and bullying.

And as a meat eater I fucking cannot tell you how much I abhor that culture. It sickens me to the core that the alt right/alt light brigade have found diet to be a new frontier to spew their bigotry from.

 

[8ball]

And as a meat eater I fucking cannot tell you how much I abhor that culture. It sickens me to the core that the alt right/alt light brigade have found diet to be a new frontier to spew their bigotry from.

People on the left need to start jumping out of planes while carefully emphasising the left-wing nature of wearing a parachute.

 

[Proper Tidy]

Leftwing competitive eating competitions

 

[Poot]

And as a meat eater I fucking cannot tell you how much I abhor that culture. It sickens me to the core that the alt right/alt light brigade have found diet to be a new frontier to spew their bigotry from.

It is odd. Some people do go to some great lengths to tell you in detail about the no-doubt imaginary steak that they will be eating for dinner as soon as you mention tofu or quorn. I cannot imagine interrupting a conversation between meat eaters to tell them about my anticipated spicy beanburger, paying special attention to the way it's slightly undercooked and really, really beany mmmmm. It was growing in a field less than a month ago. Mmmmmm

 

[8ball]

It is odd. Some people do go to some great lengths to tell you in detail about the no-doubt imaginary steak that they will be eating for dinner as soon as you mention tofu or quorn. I cannot imagine interrupting a conversation between meat eaters to tell them about my anticipated spicy beanburger, paying special attention to the way it's slightly undercooked and really, really beany mmmmm. It was growing in a field less than a month ago. Mmmmmm

 

[Proper Tidy]

It is odd. Some people do go to some great lengths to tell you in detail about the no-doubt imaginary steak that they will be eating for dinner as soon as you mention tofu or quorn. I cannot imagine interrupting a conversation between meat eaters to tell them about my anticipated spicy beanburger, paying special attention to the way it's slightly undercooked and really, really beany mmmmm. It was growing in a field less than a month ago. Mmmmmm

I like spicy bean burgers (Morrisons or Tescos, only a quid for four) but cook them for five or ten minutes over so they're crispy. With cheese.

 

[8ball]

I like spicy bean burgers (Morrisons or Tescos, only a quid for four) but cook them for five or ten minutes over so they're crispy. With cheese.

Mmm. Little bit of crispy bacon too and they're lovely.

 

[Poot]

HAVE I TOLD YOU ABOUT MY STEAK

sorry.

 

[8ball]

HAVE I TOLD YOU ABOUT MY STEAK

sorry.

There is a MY LOVELY STEAK thread, but this isn't it.

And I said a LITTLE BIT of crispy bacon. Just for a little crunch

 

[Artaxerxes]

HAVE I TOLD YOU ABOUT MY STEAK

sorry.

Have you met our lord and saviour, Meat?

 

[Mrs Miggins]

It's all kicking off in New Zealand!
Hell Pizza at legal risk over covertly dishing up Beyond Meat burger patties - lawyer

 

[gentlegreen]

A bit iffy since there's a health disclaimer for the pea protein ...

10.3% veggies in NZ
7 % in UK
France 5%

 

[editor]

Fabulous stupidity
Arby's Launches Meat-Based 'Carrot' In Bid To Buck Vegan Trend

 

[Yossarian]

Fabulous stupidity
Arby's Launches Meat-Based 'Carrot' In Bid To Buck Vegan Trend

"The chances we will bring plant-based menu items to our restaurants, now or in the future, are absolutely impossible."

"Our onion rings are actually sliced pig intestines and our french fries are carved out of lard!"

 

[8ball]

Fabulous stupidity
Arby's Launches Meat-Based 'Carrot' In Bid To Buck Vegan Trend

More odd when you consider that they are a sandwich shop that has lots of salads and stuff available.

 

[editor]

More odd when you consider that they are a sandwich shop that has lots of salads and stuff available.

I get the 'oooh let's get some publicity' angle, but I don't think this is a winning strategy.

 

[8ball]

I get the 'oooh let's get some publicity' angle, but I don't think this is a winning strategy.

Everyone just seems a bit wtf from what I can tell.
I guess it gets the name of the chain into people's heads.

 

[editor]

Everyone just seems a bit wtf from what I can tell.
I guess it gets the name of the chain into people's heads.

I didn't pay any attention to that, so that didn't work!

 

[8ball]

I didn't pay any attention to that, so that didn't work!

You didn't read the headline that you copied and pasted?

 

[gentlegreen]

Meatheads are welcome to their constipation and bowel cancer ...