Birmingham Bin Strike//Care Workers news and discussion

[purenarcotic]

pretty good turnout for a Sunday morning in Brum

It was pretty good wasn't it, some good speakers.

Do you know the name of the band who were playing?

 

[belboid]

McDonnell has supported 'strikes against austerity' it's true. But about a labour council:

- suspending trade union stewards
- threatening other workers with disciplinary action up to an including gross misconduct
- invoking partial performance measures against strikers
- hiring private contractors to try to break the strike
- offering overtime to council workers if they want to empty the bins
- most importantly renegaging on an ACAS deal struck with the union


he's had nothing to say. Nothing. Ditto Jeremy. I understand two bin workers approached McDonnell at the TUC and politely asked if he could intervene or at least say something about the attempt by a labour council to break the workers and their union.

Given the lock out move by the council - and the further raft of disciplinary proceedings announced in letters to workers over the weekend - airy statements about 'austerity' don't go anywhere near
far enough for the workers involved.

Of course he needs to say more now. But your claim that he had never said anything wasn't true.

 

[gawkrodger]

judge just summing up in the court case but it's not looking positive

 

[gawkrodger]

This Saturday

 

[gawkrodger]

and final bit of spamming (for the next few hours)

Attention all artists/graphic designers etc

As you are probably aware the binworkers in Brum are on strike after a disgusting attack on their wages and working conditions.

We're after the following

1) A logo design which we can use for banners, t-shirts, badges etc for people to show their support of the strike (i.e. an original design for which we won't recieve letters from lawyers!)

2) Posters - extolling support and solidarity with the binworkers - to be mass printed for use as placards, to stick in people's windows, on bins etc

3) 'Street art'/graffiti etc - please just go out and create pieces! Send us photos once you have done!

4) Banner drops - create banners, hang 'em from bridges over major roads etc, take photos and share on social media

Victory to the binworkers!

 

[gawkrodger]

judge just summing up in the court case but it's not looking positive

he's giving it all the 'neither side looks good, both sides come out badly' bollocks

EDIT: correction - apparently the judge is slagging off the council officers and Clancy/councillors/executive, not Unite.

 

[BigTom]

and final bit of spamming (for the next few hours)

Attention all artists/graphic designers etc

As you are probably aware the binworkers in Brum are on strike after a disgusting attack on their wages and working conditions.

We're after the following

1) A logo design which we can use for banners, t-shirts, badges etc for people to show their support of the strike (i.e. an original design for which we won't recieve letters from lawyers!)

2) Posters - extolling support and solidarity with the binworkers - to be mass printed for use as placards, to stick in people's windows, on bins etc

3) 'Street art'/graffiti etc - please just go out and create pieces! Send us photos once you have done!

4) Banner drops - create banners, hang 'em from bridges over major roads etc, take photos and share on social media

Victory to the binworkers!

I can help with posters/t-shirt/leaflet/badge design once you've got a logo design.

 

[gawkrodger]

OK, judge properly laying in the Council now. Looking positive

 

[gawkrodger]

Kathryn Stanczyszyn (@stanchers) on Twitter

good for updates

 

[cybershot]

'Bearded Broz' are back to clean up city

Love how they time this when the bin men will have to do two weeks of solid working anyway before they can go back on strike!

Idiots.

 

[cybershot]

 

[gawkrodger]

Judge grants Unite injunction against BCC. Full trial in November!

 

[cybershot]

On the plus side for residents, didn't Unite say they would put off further strike action if injuction was granted.

 

[cybershot]

On the plus side for residents, didn't Unite say they would put off further strike action if injuction was granted.

Yup

 

[gawkrodger]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Workers <a href="News about #BirminghamBinStrike on Twitter">#BirminghamBinStrike</a> cheer as they leave <a href="News about #HighCourt on Twitter">#HighCourt</a> after judge gives injunction against <a href="Bham City Council (@BhamCityCouncil) on Twitter">@BhamCityCouncil</a> redundancy notices <a href="BBC WM 95.6 (@bbcwm) on Twitter">@bbcwm</a> <a href="Kathryn Stanczyszyn on Twitter">pic.twitter.com/SasjEyPgJ9</a></p>&mdash; Kathryn Stanczyszyn (@stanchers) <a href="">September 20, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[beesonthewhatnow]

Excellent news

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Up the workers!

 

[BCBlues]

Birmingham bin strike - this is where we stand now

Fair play to Unite and the workers

 

[gawkrodger]

new despicable actions by BCC

https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http...VXVaX_uaHWuxYEUNAIeLOs6vDo0zLVwU2WB9G5N54xzCQ

 

[Happy Larry]

I'd sack the binmen tomorrow and recruit people who would work for the wages on offer. Of course the workers have a right to withdraw their labour. Likewise, the council have a right to withdraw their jobs.

Exactly. The strikers don't give a damn about the inconvenience they are causing the public they signed up to serve. It's all about themselves. If others are happy with the wages offered, then take them on.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Fuck off.

 

[Ho Chi Ming]

Exactly. The strikers don't give a damn about the inconvenience they are causing the public they signed up to serve. It's all about themselves. If others are happy with the wages offered, then take them on.

Are you a Viz character?
"Happy Larry - The Reactionary Troll"
"Happy Larry - President of the Race to the Bottom Olympiad"
Or
"Happy Larry - Cunt".

 

[Happy Larry]

Ho/Bishie : Instead of being abusive, why not actually try and debate the issue under discussion and advise why you feel that Birmingham Council should not be allowed to "modernise the service and save £5m a year" thus saving ratepayers money, as they claim they want to?

 

[baldrick]

Ho/Bishie : Instead of being abusive, why not actually try and debate the issue under discussion and advise why you feel that Birmingham Council should not be allowed to "modernise the service and save £5m a year" thus saving ratepayers money, as they claim they want to?

There isn't an issue that needs debating. The workers are right to do what they've done, end of.

 

[NoXion]

Ho/Bishie : Instead of being abusive, why not actually try and debate the issue under discussion and advise why you feel that Birmingham Council should not be allowed to "modernise the service and save £5m a year" thus saving ratepayers money, as they claim they want to?

This isn't about saving ratepayers any money, that's just an excuse, and you're a massive fool if you believe them. Or have you not noticed that despite all the austerity over the past decade, people's bills are still going up?

Even if by some fluke degrading the quality of refuse disposal services (you get what you pay for, after all) actually results in lower rates, clean streets and people's livelihoods are more important than convenience. Not to mention that it will lead to the degradation of other services as well, resulting in an increasingly shitty experience of living in Birmingham overall.

It's clear that you don't actually work for a living, which is why you have no problems with workers being threatened with worse pay and contracts.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Ho/Bishie : Instead of being abusive, why not actually try and debate the issue under discussion and advise why you feel that Birmingham Council should not be allowed to "modernise the service and save £5m a year" thus saving ratepayers money, as they claim they want to?

Fuck off.

 

[Happy Larry]

This isn't about saving ratepayers any money,

Er, well the Union concerned obviously disagrees with you. They are claiming that it is all about job losses potentially totalling 120, which nobody seem to be denying would save an awful lot of ratepayers money.

"The Unite union claims restructuring plans threaten the jobs of more than 120 staff"

What caused Birmingham's bin strike?

 

[pesh]

Fuck off

 

[NoXion]

Er, well the Union concerned obviously disagrees with you. They are claiming that it is all about job losses potentially totalling 120, which nobody seem to be denying would save an awful lot of ratepayers money.

"The Unite union claims restructuring plans threaten the jobs of more than 120 staff"

What caused Birmingham's bin strike?

The union are talking about job losses, they haven't said shit about saving money because that's not what a union is about. All the shit about saving money is coming from the council.

It all comes down to you believing the word of the bosses over that of the workers.

 

[belboid]

Stop feeding the fucking troll