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This was yesterday.

Considering most people must be aware he's not going to win now, he's still drawing huge crowds of very enthusiastic people.

I'm crossing my fingers this bodes well for what happens after the election.
 
Vintage Paw said:
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This was yesterday.

Considering most people must be aware he's not going to win now, he's still drawing huge crowds of very enthusiastic people.

I'm crossing my fingers this bodes well for what happens after the election.
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If Hillary wins, she & other Dems will have to respond to progressive pressure from the Bernie base. If Trump & the Repubs win, they'll ignore them.
 
gawkrodger said:
If Hilary wins, she'll attempt large scale purges of Bernie supporters from the party
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And, that will be a fatal mistake. She can't win without a substantial number of Bernie supporters showing up for her. If the Democratic Party doesn't find a way to bring them in, they'll go start their own party or they'll go support the Greens. Look at how much difficulty the Libertarians are giving the Republican Party.
 
Yuwipi Woman said:
And, that will be a fatal mistake. She can't win without a substantial number of Bernie supporters showing up for her. If the Democratic Party doesn't find a way to bring them in, they'll go start their own party or they'll go support the Greens. Look at how much difficulty the Libertarians are giving the Republican Party.
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She'd only need them until the election. Besides you can look at UK Labour's contempt for it's new Corbyn liking members - they're convinced they don't need them because they can have the right instead.
 
TomUS said:
No she won't. It would be political suicide & split the Dems more than they already are.
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the right of any center left party rolling with the p's like clinton and co have don't give a shit, they'd rather spend years in opposition destroying anything vaguely leftish in thier own party. We are seeing this play out (again) in the Labour party under Corbyn
 
The best thing that could happen now, imo, is the Republicans press the self-destruct button and run an independent candidate, which in turn should (hopefully) put enough pressure on Bernie to do the same.

I doubt either will happen, but if the Repubs do, Bernie would be an absolute fool not to follow suit.

It would make for the most interesting American election in any of our lifetimes.
 
Vintage Paw said:
The best thing that could happen now, imo, is the Republicans press the self-destruct button and run an independent candidate, which in turn should (hopefully) put enough pressure on Bernie to do the same.

I doubt either will happen, but if the Repubs do, Bernie would be an absolute fool not to follow suit.

It would make for the most interesting American election in any of our lifetimes.
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interesting to see both of the big parties here and there presenting a house divided. On the surface you might say its for wildly different reasons and it is. But the way the divisions are being drawn between party base and party maverick+supporters echoes. I'm sure this stunning insight has never been aired before but as it gets scarily closer to the idea that donald trump, a fuck haired litigious rapist with the morals of a dog minus the loyalty will get the repub nom. We live in interesting shit times.
 
gawkrodger said:
To clarify, I didn't mean if she wins the nomination, I meant if she wins the Presidency
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Yes. But I still can't see her attempting to purge the party of nearly half the party. It's in her interest for the Dem party to be in power and united.
 
Vintage Paw said:
It would make for the most interesting American election in any of our lifetimes.
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This was posted on the Trump thread. Worth reading and then, if it's not seared into your brain, worth reading up on the 1968 campaign, with an outfront segregationalist racist, an eventual winner for whom typewriters had to be modified to always spell his name with a swastika and a police riot at the democratic convention, followed by a conspiracy trial with the only black defendant bound and gagged in the dock.

Sometimes 'interesting' isn't such a good thing!
 
theres a lot of '68 parralels to be drawn but this was now and this is then. They'll still murder any left movement today though. We have seen it in operation.
 
ruffneck23 link not working its been deleted? cached version here; *edit, link didnt work but you can get it by googling the title and click cached version*

if he wins california and all the superdelegates switch then he can still win right? highly unlikely but still possible? then again if you are counting on californians it probably is over
 
Yata said:
ruffneck23 link not working its been deleted? cached version here; *edit, link didnt work but you can get it by googling the title and click cached version*

if he wins california and all the superdelegates switch then he can still win right? highly unlikely but still possible? then again if you are counting on californians it probably is over
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Even if he wins Cal, it would be a psychological victory only since the delegates are awarded proportionally. Tomorrow is another super Tues....Cal, New Jersey & 4 other states vote. It'll be over tomorrow evening. I hope Bernie endorses Hillary after that. He fought the good fight & pushed her to more progressive positions. The task for all civilized Americans will be to defeat Herr Trump.
 
Yata said:
ruffneck23 link not working its been deleted? cached version here; *edit, link didnt work but you can get it by googling the title and click cached version*

if he wins california and all the superdelegates switch then he can still win right? highly unlikely but still possible? then again if you are counting on californians it probably is over
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It's technically possible for Sanders to win if he scores massive victories Tuesday and lots of superdelegates switch sides - but since this would involve telling more than 10 million primary voters, including clear majorities of blacks and other minority groups, that their votes don't count, it's hard to see a Sanders win happening without Clinton getting charged with a crime or some equally huge development.
 
Sanders says it is still far from over:

"Secretary Clinton does not have and will not have the requisite number of pledged delegates to secure the nomination. She will be dependent on superdelegates who do not vote until July 25 and who can change their minds between now and then. They include more than 400 superdelegates who endorsed Secretary Clinton 10 months before the first caucuses and primaries and long before any other candidate was in the race."

Sanders Campaign Statement - Bernie Sanders

He has a point, though I suspect that many years from now, they will be finding Sanders supporters on remote college campuses and organic farms who still won't acknowledge that the race is over.
 
possibly. I don't know how many thousands of miles people will be prepared to travel to be there and protest. Maybe not so many will make it.
 
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