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BBC presenter Huw Edwards suspended over paying for sexual pics.

My costs for recent family Law was....

£200 first meeting, one hour
£200 and hour for solicitor and £140 and hour for PA

they charged in 6 min blocks,

I paid them £1000 up front and i dont know how much is left after 2-3 meetings and 4 letters, but they haven't asked me for more money yet.
 
Ms T said:
There's a pretty big hint earlier in the thread you might want to look at....
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Thank you for the heads up. I'm now issuing warnings to anyone who keeps on dropping hints. They can't say they weren't warned.

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MrCurry said:
Of course papers do get it wrong sometimes and lose lawsuits as a result, but generally they know exactly where the lines are drawn and make sure they don’t overstep and leave themselves liable.

Having said that, it would be awesome to see this particular dirt rag lose money.
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Naah, they frequently overstep that mark. Simple cost/benefit analysis, all the extra sales revenue and advertising, as well as the cost they’re happy to pay to screw over who/whatever.
 
Sky reports the Director General says the complaint was made 7 weeks ago, someone attempted to follow it up, first with an e-mail to the family, but they received no reply, then they tried phoning, but the call 'did not connect', and it appears no further attempt to make contact was made.

He went on to say senior managers only became became aware last Thursday when the Sun contacted them, they spoke to the presenter and agreed they shouldn't appear on air, following up with a full suspension on Sunday.

That seems to rather confirm who it is.

Full statement has just appeared -

A statement from the BBC this afternoon reads "Yesterday, 10 July, the BBC’s Corporate Investigations Team had a meeting with the Metropolitan Police in relation to information provided to the BBC by The Sun newspaper on Thursday 6 July.

"As a result of this meeting, the BBC has been asked to pause its investigations into the allegations while the Police scope future work.

"We know that questions have been asked about how the complaint was initially managed, so today we have published an update that sets out key dates and some additional information that we are currently able to share.

"The BBC has processes and protocols for receiving information and managing complaints when they are first made. We always take these matters extremely seriously and seek to manage them with the appropriate duty of care.

"The events of recent days have shown how complex and challenging these kinds of cases can be and how vital it is that they are handled with the utmost diligence and care.

"There will, of course, be lessons to be learned following this exercise. Although the current issues has not yet been fully resolved, the Director-General has asked Leigh Tavaziva, the BBC’s Group Chief Operating Officer, to assess whether our protocols and procedures are appropriate in light of this case, and report to the BBC Board on this in due course."
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The BBC has released this timeline of key dates in the scandal

On 18 May, the complainant (a family member) attended a BBC building, where they sought to make a complaint about the behaviour of a BBC presenter.

On 19 May, the complainant contacted BBC Audience Services; the details of this contact were referred to the BBC’s Corporate Investigations Team.

On 19 May, the BBC’s Corporate Investigations Team assessed the information contained in the complaint provided from Audience Services. The assessment made was that on the basis of the information provided it did not include an allegation of criminality, but nonetheless merited further investigation.

On 19 May, the BBC’s Corporate Investigations Team emailed the complainant stating how seriously the BBC takes the issue and seeking additional information to verify the claims being made; there was no response to this contact.

On 19 May, checks were also made to verify the identity of the complainant. This is a standard procedure to confirm that the complainant is the person they say they are.

On 6 June, having received no response to the email referenced above, a phone call was made to the mobile number provided by the complainant by the BBC’s Corporate Investigations Team; this call did not connect.

Following these attempts to make contact with the complainant, the Corporate Investigations Team were due to return to the matter in the coming weeks. No additional attempts to contact the complainant were made after 6 June, however the case remained open throughout.

On 6 July, The Sun newspaper informed the BBC via the Corporate Press Office of allegations concerning a BBC presenter; it became clear that the source of the claims was from the same family as approached the BBC on 18 and 19 May. This was the first time that the Director-General or any executive directors at the BBC were aware of the case.

The claims made by The Sun contained new allegations, that were different to the matters being considered by BBC Corporate Investigations.

On 6 July, the BBC initiated an incident management group to lead the response to this case, involving senior BBC executives including the Director-General. The Acting Chairman was updated, and the Board was regularly updated in the coming days.

On 6 July, a senior manager held the first conversation on this matter with the presenter concerned, to make him aware of the claims being outlined by The Sun. It was agreed that the presenter would not be on air while this matter was being considered.

On 7 July, following The Sun’s contact, the BBC’s Corporate Investigations team contacted the complainant again, who was in touch with the BBC’s investigators.

On 7 July, the BBC’s Serious Case Management Framework (SCMF) was initiated and the investigation being undertaken by the Corporate Investigations Team was brought into the SCMF, which is chaired by a Human Resources Director.

On 7 July the BBC also made contact with the Police with regard to this matter.

On 8 July and on 9 July the complainant sent the BBC some materials related to the complaint.

On 9 July, the BBC issued an update to staff and the media; the BBC also confirmed that it had suspended the presenter.

On 10 July the BBC met with the Police, to report the matter and discuss how to progress the investigation. The Police have requested that the BBC pause its investigations into the allegations while they scope future work.
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From post at 12:14pm - Director-general pauses inquiry as police probe allegations - updates
 
I still don't get why the parents complained to the guy's employer (in this case the BBC) rather than the cops. If my son was in that position and worked at say, Pret, I'd go to the cops, not the manager of his Pret.
 
bimble said:
i still just cannot believe how this absolute nonsense has been the biggest news story in the uk for days on end, just completely bizarre. that in itself has to be the weirdest thing about it, how it even got this far.
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It's not like July's been a slow news month, but then again levering politics off the table while having a go at their favourite spittle subject of degenerate queer London media luvvies working for leftie liberal BBC is quite handy for the tabloids. It's only a wonder they haven't levered in the Woke Trans Agenda somewhere.

The really tiresome bit is that other less rabid. media still faithfully front page the Murdoch news agenda when they really don't need to.
 
bimble said:
i still just cannot believe how this absolute nonsense has been the biggest news story in the uk for days on end, just completely bizarre. that in itself has to be the weirdest thing about it, how it even got this far.
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Well, it's got the cost of living crisis, asylum seekers and the Covid enquiry deadline off the front pages, and out of the minds of the great unwashed.
 
danny la rouge said:
I've been away. Why is everyone talking about Valerie Singleton?
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I should point out, I don’t know who is in the frame, and this was just a joke about all the speculation, not an actual clue. I was attempting to be as ridiculous as possible, and, being old, chose a famous person from my youth. I do not think it is Val. Who I think is fab.
 
danny la rouge said:
I should point out, I don’t know who is in the frame, and this was just a joke about all the speculation, not an actual clue. I was attempting to be as ridiculous as possible, and, being old, chose a famous person from my youth. I do not think it is Val. Who I think is fab.
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So what pressure did Val apply that made you attempt, unsuccessfully, to hide the real truth?
 
bimble said:
i still just cannot believe how this absolute nonsense has been the biggest news story in the uk for days on end, just completely bizarre. that in itself has to be the weirdest thing about it, how it even got this far.
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Well, people like gossip. And the main attraction here is the mystery. Mystery is always juicy.

What I've been obsessing about recently is the climate emergency, the cost of living, global injustice, and the potential for more war and resulting misery. So it's not really a surprise that people would like to try to push that out of their heads with some gossip. And as noted the media are only too willing to oblige.

A more serious discussion, and not one for this thread because having it here would only muddy the waters of that serious discussion, is around porn, the relative agency of sex workers, the effect of the trade on their lives, and on wider societal attitudes, the power of porn users, and misogyny. But the suggestion that this could perhaps be an Only Fans type transaction does raise those questions. (To which I don't have definitive answers).
 
bimble said:
i still just cannot believe how this absolute nonsense has been the biggest news story in the uk for days on end, just completely bizarre. that in itself has to be the weirdest thing about it, how it even got this far.
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The loudest voices in print media will jump on anything that denigrates the BBC, either due to seeing them as media rivals or because they are lefty/‘woke’ in their eyes. So of course there will be shouting about it for days.
 
danny la rouge said:
Well, people like gossip. And the main attraction here is the mystery. Mystery is always juicy.

What I've been obsessing about recently is the climate emergency, the cost of living, global injustice, and the potential for more war and resulting misery. So it's not really a surprise that people would like to try to push that out of their heads with some gossip. And as noted the media are only too willing to oblige.

A more serious discussion, and not one for this thread because having it here would only muddy the waters of that serious discussion, is around porn, the relative agency of sex workers, the effect of the trade on their lives, and on wider societal attitudes, the power of porn users, and misogyny. But the suggestion that this could perhaps be an Only Fans type transaction does raise those questions. (To which I don't have definitive answers).
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The US president also arrived in the UK yesterday and is now in Vilnius at a major conference about Sweden joining Nato and getting things progressed on Ukraine doing the same. But no. We're all obsessed with a whodunnit. This country.

I am however impressed that this guy has managed to prevent his name being released as of yet. I don't think it ever will be.
 
The way Ganymede was conveniently locked in a time bubble to save it from the Daleks just before the Doctor was due to be at a hearing on safeguarding for all these earthling youths he kept randomly abducting is rather suspicious.

"So from my notes, Doctor, I see you first abducted Rose Tyler at the age of 19 - young for an Earthling let alone a Gallifreyan. What's that, about 1/40th your age? - having blown up her place of work. And ... good lord ... why would ... this is awful ... her ex too? ... wait she absorbed the time vortex? And then you kissed and abandoned her in another dimension?? What the hell is wrong with you??"
 
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