Batley and Spen by-election

[ska invita]

seems clear to me from this kind of thing

Keir Starmer set to make major changes to Labour backroom team

Several longtime allies including Jenny Chapman to move aside after byelection as leader seeks to shift into campaigning stance

www.theguardian.com

that Starmer isnt planning on going anywhere after losing this byelection
digging in more likely

 

[magneze]

Sounds like he's already accepted the loss too.

 

[Sasaferrato]

I assumed from the context that Guineveretoo is a member of the Labour party, and was using "we" to refer to other members of the party.

Nothing wrong with that, unless you're finding fault for the sake of it

I was being flippant. As shown by the

 

[JTG]

seems clear to me from this kind of thing

Keir Starmer set to make major changes to Labour backroom team

Several longtime allies including Jenny Chapman to move aside after byelection as leader seeks to shift into campaigning stance

www.theguardian.com

that Starmer isnt planning on going anywhere after losing this byelection
digging in more likely

Work still to be done. Can't risk someone else coming in until they've changed the rules for leadership elections

 

[Leighsw2]

The decision today to bring back Blair's ex-head of comms (and Mandelson protege) very clearly indicates the direction of travel for Starmer-Labour following next week's bye-election.

 

[ska invita]

The decision today to bring back Blair's ex-head of comms (and Mandelson protege) very clearly indicates the direction of travel.,....

.... Head first into the dustbin of history.

 

[PR1Berske]

 

[ska invita]

Crashes on my phone, what happened please?

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Galloway supporting vermin spewing their hate-filled homophobic bigotry




(edit, not sure if they are actually Galloway supporters. Apparently this is Shakeel Afsar - one of those bigoted cunt parents from Brum who launched that fascist hate campaign against a school)

 

[belboid]

Galloway supporting vermin spewing their hate-filled homophobic bigotry

he was questioned about this type of behaviour on C4 news yesterday. |He told the reporter to get off his bus.

 

[brogdale]

he was questioned about this type of behaviour on C4 news yesterday. |He told the reporter to get off his bus.

Liz Bates face kind of spoke for many, I feel...

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Probably not affiliated with Galloway but I bet Galloway won’t condemn this, just like he and RESPECT refused to condemn anti-Semitic abuse in the Bethnal Green election.

 

[PR1Berske]

Yes, that's the thing. You can create these groups - Respect, Workers GB - and then plausibly deny that any grouplets are associatrice with you. Clever.

 

[PR1Berske]

"Associatrice" is a new word, thanks autocorrect.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

I don’t know whether to laugh or cry tbh

 

[Jeff Robinson]

As predicted, they disassociate but do not criticise

 

[PR1Berske]

Galloway supporting vermin spewing their hate-filled homophobic bigotry




(edit, not sure if they are actually Galloway supporters. Apparently this is Shakeel Afsar - one of those bigoted cunt parents from Brum who launched that fascist hate campaign against a school)

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Yeah he's a real fascist piece of shit.

 

[tim]

I have no idea who Joe Media are but they were filming Galloway and trying to get an interview from Leadbeatter at the time. It's 7 minutes long so gives a bit more context than the others Asfar rather than being a Galloway team player comes across a publicity-seeking shit on a day trip to Batley. Amusing to see Galloway claiming that he steers clear of confrontation and Leadbeatter claiming she can't speak to journalists without Dan's authorisation. Naz Shah, who beat Galloway in Bradford, was also present and came out of it better than anyone else. Most of those chasing Leadbeatter were, of course, journalists.

 

[tony.c]

Will the Hancock affair improve Labour's chances on Thursday?

 

[Dogsauce]

Will the Hancock affair improve Labour's chances on Thursday?

Labour will be too clumsy and unsure of themselves to make any capital out of it. Expect a mild rebuke from Kieth followed by a bit of flagshagging because the proles love that shit.

 

[steveseagull]

If Labour actually win on Friday, Keith will be doing a speech telling the voters they are awful people for voting for labour because Labour are so awful.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

Will the Hancock affair improve Labour's chances on Thursday?

Ofcourse not

 

[kenny g]

Not having physical clp meetings must contribute to that feeling?

Yep. The attraction of an evening zooming in after a day of slog is minimal.

 

[MickiQ]

Will the Hancock affair improve Labour's chances on Thursday?

Can't imagine it will. Hancock has got away with blatant corruption in awarding NHS contracts this past 18 months this is nothing compared to that

 

[kenny g]

I'm starting to expect labour will come a low third.

 

[brogdale]

I'm starting to expect labour will come a low third.

Progress; better than fourth in Amersham!

 

[Jeff Robinson]

I have no idea who Joe Media are but they were filming Galloway and trying to get an interview from Leadbeatter at the time. It's 7 minutes long so gives a bit more context than the others Asfar rather than being a Galloway team player comes across a publicity-seeking shit on a day trip to Batley. Amusing to see Galloway claiming that he steers clear of confrontation and Leadbeatter claiming she can't speak to journalists without Dan's authorisation. Naz Shah, who beat Galloway in Bradford, was also present and came out of it better than anyone else. Most of those chasing Leadbeatter were, of course, journalists.

Notice that Galloway does not distance himself from the content of Afsar’s ranting, merely the form it took. And indeed, he couldn’t do otherwise. At around the same time the incident took place his party released a video of him engaging in exactly the same anti-LGBT hysteria as Afsar.

 

[tim]

I'm starting to expect labour will come a low third.

Or that Galloway will take many votes that would otherwise have gone Tory, and as a result it will be a Labour victory and claimed as a vote of confidence in Starmer's leadership.

 

[kenny g]

Or that Galloway will take many votes that would otherwise have gone Tory, and as a result it will be a Labour victory and claimed as a vote of confidence in Starmer's leadership.

Possible but I suspect it will be Tory /Galloway neck and neck followed by labour a third or fourth. Labour vote may also be eaten by Lib Dems.