Batley and Spen by-election
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The thing is though, whoever wins is gonna be a cunt. And whoever loses.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
The losers are and will be the citizens of Batley & Spen. The by-election is a toxic cesspit of shit politics and opportunist wankers.
The irony is that there is a massive space for pro-working class politics in places like that. But, no organisations left that possess them.
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
I am a bit confused about what line Galloway's taking with all that stuff - I would have thought he'd be going for "defender of Muslim families oppressed by the islamophobic school system", and assumed his anti-sex-education stuff was a dogwhistle in that direction - "look, I want to stop bad stuff from getting taught in schools" - , but that seems a bit incompatible with palling around with Fox & co? Has he said anything directly about it?
I was going to say "remember the BNP bouncy castle satanist porno guy, that was a happier simpler time", but I've just looked him up and I think he was actually just a BNP bouncy castle satanist escort guy, not sure he ever worked in porn, so sorry for any derail there.
Other way around, surely - I don't think Galloway is actually supportive of anyone other than Galloway, but sure he's happy if the Cbeebies M-L want to reprise the old SWP/Respect role?
josef1878 2.0
Well-Known Member
He could probably go back to his old Leigh seat, currently Tory for the first time since god knows when. He would beat the bellend who got elected who likes standing on tables in pubs waving his knob around while being filmed.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
Every mutt within a 100 mile radius was howling when he wrote that
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Got a bit of sick in my mouth after reading that.
Its a naked and opportunistic appeal to the Muslim vote - for whom the Israel/Palestine conflict is understandably a significant motivating factor - but I'm missing the dog whistle. Where is it?
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Is he allowed/supposed to be calling himself The Honorable?
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
Is that legit?
It's so fucking blatant if I didn't know better I'd assume it was a smear!
From that Spiked interview with Galloway, linked to above :
Cheeky fucker!
Galloway said:
Cheeky fucker!
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
Problem is, there's no agreement about what is meant by working-class anymore, nevermind what politics would be "pro" it.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Everyone is entitled to a little embellishment
Also, what does that 'Gaya tri Gall oway' tag mean?? 
(Does it mean Honourable?? )
(Does it mean Honourable??
)
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
Maybe The "Hon." isn't short for honourable here?
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
That's his (4th) wife.Also, what does that 'Gaya tri Gall oway' tag mean??
(Does it mean Honourable??
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
when did this begin/start?
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
I think we can safely set aside those who write entire communities off as ‘nativists’, ‘thinkers’ about post work utopias and anyone engaged in work to build ‘socialism without the working class’.
Have we collapsed to the point that we can no longer even envisage a collective form of politics built around a vision for the future of the community that the community itself has ownership of, of a radical economic offer, a commitment to community organising and building people power and a determination to argue for those politics?
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
This is the bit I'm still stuck on - that sounds like more or less the line I'd expect from Galloway, but I still can't square it with the palling around with Toby Young and Lawrence Fox. Like, if Young and Fox are siding with the teacher, then surely this goes entirely against everything they're saying?
I like how the wording there sounds like he's pissed off about the SNP's lack of sex education. "Here's what the SNP MSM won't tell you about rimming!"
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Yes, its definitely the juggling of a charlatan.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
1997.
1989.
1979.
1968.
1945.
1939.
1917.
Pick a date. You could make an argument for any of them.
For me, the 80s are key. The systematic destruction of the material basis of swathes of w/c communities coupled with an economic re-orientation to financial jobs in the SE ....
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I'm not the one making the argument tbh. However, I'm a bit confused that you've listed dates going back over a hundred years when originally you said ' Problem is, there's no agreement about what is meant by working-class anymore, nevermind what politics would be "pro" it.' So I'm wondering when the consensus ended.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
Was there ever such a consensus? I don't know. What is clear is that we are further from that consensus now than I can ever recall before.
Is anybody identifying (nevermind articulating) the shared material interests of a 20something graduate renting in London and a 60something non-graduate retired home-owner in the North?
Even describing the tension in this way widens it.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Without wanting to go to a case by case vetted by panel of experts situation. it's a contested area. Much like politics within the working classitself. Academics have never agreed on who or what is working class , and as capitalism changes job roles change . Even the concept of affluent workers isn't new. Surveys that rely on self identification show that the majority of people still view themselves as working class.
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
I wonder how many hours every day Galloway and his NazBol allies think angrily about anal sex?
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