Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Synthetic meat is going to be a minefield. It'll likely be pumped full of all sorts of things to give it some nutritional value. I can't say I'm looking forward to it, if it ever happens.
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hiraethified
And people who refuse to even slightly cut back on their consumption of meat despite the consistent and clear message that has been sent out by scientists year after year.
*awaits fresh batch of home grown whataboutery.
And the rag and bone man that operated in Thornton Heath well into the 90s. I don't reckon they were rich.
I don't think they were dirt poor either, but just wanted to throw that into this perpetual stew.
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hiraethified
And meat isn't already full of awful shit?
Steroid Hormone Implants Used for Growth in Food-Producing Animals
FDA has approved a number of steroid hormone drugs for use in beef cattle and sheep.
5 Dangerous Substances Big Ag Pumps Into Your Meat - EcoWatch
It is no secret that in the war against meat pathogens in commercial U.S. meat production, the pathogens are winning. The logical result of the tons of antibiotics Big Meat gives livestock (not because they are sick, but to fatten them up) is clear: antibiotics that no longer work against...
www.ecowatch.com
Sex Hormones in Meat and Dairy Products
The presence of hormones in milk and dairy foods has been discussed for decades. In recent years, consumers have become increasingly proactive in investigating the relationship between diet and health, and awareness of issues concerning food production has increased significantly. In the Western...
www.news-medical.net
This might interest you Pickman's model ..
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Not great sources of impartial information, though, tbf. That last one is a crypto-enthusiastic site, for instance. I just had a quick skim of the total fucking bullshit they spout about bitcoin from the first link I found.I've no idea if that will happen and neither have have you. None at all, yet you keep repeating this line like it's a fact,
But earlier you were emphatically claiming that only big mega corporates would have the means to produce lab grown meat. And you are totally wrong.
Meet 7 Startups Creating Lab-Grown Meat - Nanalyze
We cover a ton of disruptive technologies here at Nanalyze so that our readers understand what’s out there that may be worth investing in as opportunities present themselves. The hope is that we learn something cool and make a few bucks in the process. It also doesn’t hurt that much of the...www.nanalyze.com
Five companies at the forefront of the cultured meat revolution
IDTechEx Research Article: IDTechEx explore five companies at the forefront of the cultured meat revolution, based on analysis from the recent report, Plant-based and Cultured Meat 2020-2030.www.idtechex.com
8 European foodtech startups that intend to bring lab-grown meat to your table soon
While various solutions for cultured meat are on cards, here are some promising European startups that are at the forefront.siliconcanals.com
The companies are all talking themselves up, of course, and that talking up is reported uncritically. From that second one:
But as that Nature article made very clear, scale up of production facilities remains an unsolved problem. Their burger first came out in 2013. I would wager a small sum that they said exactly the same thing about the time scale eight years ago. You have to to get funding. 'Well, maybe in 20 years' time but perhaps never' isn't going to attract many investors.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Indeed, so imagine what the likes of Tyson foods will be getting up to when there's no animal welfare to take into consideration in the production of their food?And meat isn't already full of awful shit?
Steroid Hormone Implants Used for Growth in Food-Producing Animals
FDA has approved a number of steroid hormone drugs for use in beef cattle and sheep.www.fda.gov
5 Dangerous Substances Big Ag Pumps Into Your Meat - EcoWatch
It is no secret that in the war against meat pathogens in commercial U.S. meat production, the pathogens are winning. The logical result of the tons of antibiotics Big Meat gives livestock (not because they are sick, but to fatten them up) is clear: antibiotics that no longer work against...Sex Hormones in Meat and Dairy Products
The presence of hormones in milk and dairy foods has been discussed for decades. In recent years, consumers have become increasingly proactive in investigating the relationship between diet and health, and awareness of issues concerning food production has increased significantly. In the Western...
Poot
My wife thinks I work too hard
I've tried to stay away from the cruelty issues because this is not a thread about that, but that's also not going to be improved by big producers, either, who have narrow margins and can move to other countries where the laws are more relaxed and more land is available. And if those companies have a synthetic-meat-manufacturing arm called something else, vegans and veggies will end up supporting them like everyone else. This is a big problem for everyone. This is the common enemy.
Funky_monks
Neo-Rustic
All banned in the EU - synthetic hormones, that is. The one about hormones that naturally occur in animals is hardly anyone putting stuff in, is it? Damn cows, having an endocrine system.And meat isn't already full of awful shit?
Steroid Hormone Implants Used for Growth in Food-Producing Animals
FDA has approved a number of steroid hormone drugs for use in beef cattle and sheep.5 Dangerous Substances Big Ag Pumps Into Your Meat - EcoWatch
It is no secret that in the war against meat pathogens in commercial U.S. meat production, the pathogens are winning. The logical result of the tons of antibiotics Big Meat gives livestock (not because they are sick, but to fatten them up) is clear: antibiotics that no longer work against...Sex Hormones in Meat and Dairy Products
The presence of hormones in milk and dairy foods has been discussed for decades. In recent years, consumers have become increasingly proactive in investigating the relationship between diet and health, and awareness of issues concerning food production has increased significantly. In the Western...
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hiraethified
Maybe, maybe not. But the fact that there are so many start ups getting involved (and those links were from a ten second search) puts paid to the bullshit that only enormo-mega corporates will be able to produce synthetic meats.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
No it doesn't.
Read the Nature article I linked to.
And may I suggest you spend 20 seconds searching next time and not link to crypto-wankers?
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hiraethified
And there you go again with your wild, groundless speculation. But anything that doesn't involve the horrendous exploitation of animals is already looking better to me.
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hiraethified
We're not in the EU
Funky_monks
Neo-Rustic
Current welfare/med regs are unchanged.We're not in the EU
Funky_monks
Neo-Rustic
They already do - Cargill, for example.
Funky_monks
Neo-Rustic
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Have you seen what goes on at Tyson foods chicken processing plants? It's not much of a stretch to imagine it won't be any better when they start producing synthetic meat. Thankfully, they're in the US of A, as are pretty much every meat company you speak of on this thread, so I won't be eating any of their produce. I hope the same applies to you in the UK.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Small company patents technology to produce synthetic meat, big company buys small company... Not rocket science.
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
Why did you post this?
weltweit
Well-Known Member
Because despite that it might be an idea if I cut down on meat and dairy, I still love a cold glass of milk! and milk on my porridge etc ..Why did you post this?
I actually don't eat so much meat these days, but milk and cheese would be hard to lose.
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
Context!
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
this is a silly futile waste of everyone’s time
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hiraethified
EXCEPT THERE WILL BE ZERO ANIMAL CRUELTY. And they're not in the UK. So why are you going on about them?
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hiraethified
Google was a start up once. So was Apple. So were endless other small companies who pursued an independent route. Some got big. Some didn't. Some were happy staying small, others were happy to sell up.
Your one size fits all extrapolating is ridiculous, and is just another example of your anti-vegan whataboutery. Or are you really going to assert that ALL start-up always end up being swallowed by mega-corps?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Google and Apple are now mega-corps. Not great examples. 
Technically speaking, every company that's ever existed was a start up once.
Regarding how that works with new technology, there were hundreds of car manufacturers in Europe at the start of the 20th century. Most went to the wall or were bought out, leaving the handful of huge major manufacturers we have now, all of which had started small. It's quite a normal process.
Technically speaking, every company that's ever existed was a start up once.
Regarding how that works with new technology, there were hundreds of car manufacturers in Europe at the start of the 20th century. Most went to the wall or were bought out, leaving the handful of huge major manufacturers we have now, all of which had started small. It's quite a normal process.
Funky_monks
Neo-Rustic
Oh, I see, so instead of being swallowed up by mega corps they could instead become mega corps. That's so much better. Thanks for putting our collective minds at ease.
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