Avoiding meat and dairy is ‘single biggest way’ to reduce your impact on Earth

[Orang Utan]

Right ok. Not based on anything then.

Were you not taught this at school?

 

[Pickman's model]

Eating any type of food all of the time is not balanced by definition

I wonder how LBJ would fare fed exclusively on mcd's burgers for a month.

 

[Orang Utan]

I wonder how LBJ would fare fed exclusively on mcd's burgers for a month.

There’s a film about that

 

[Pickman's model]

Were you not taught this at school?

Wasn't on the curriculum at know it all academy where pupils only tried to avoid humble pie

 

[Flavour]

Right ok. Not based on anything then.

You absolute tool

 

[Saul Goodman]

Meat eaters can eat vegetarian food but not vice versa. Not sure why people find that hard to grasp

Are you saying vegetarians are obligate herbivores?

Eating any type of food all of the time is not balanced by definition

Like vegetables?

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Are there people who eat meat EVERY day?

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I’m not exactly eating steak every meal, and often have veggie meals (these are becoming more frequent too), but I’d struggle to think of a day where there wasn’t something with meat in it at some point.

 

[Orang Utan]

Are you saying vegetarians are obligate herbivores?



Like vegetables?

There are many types of vegetables and fruits that have different sorts of nutrients. Way more varied than meat

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Ceratinly there's plenty of medical advice to cut back on the someone's daily red meat intake:

There is advice to cut back on red meat, certainly, although some of the studies this is based on aren't totally clear about whether it's the redness or the processedness of the meat that's the biggest problem. This metastudy suggests that processed meat is between 2 and 10 times more cancer-causing than fresh red meat.

 

[Flavour]

There is advice to cut back on red meat, certainly, although some of the studies this is based on aren't totally clear about whether it's the redness or the processedness of the meat that's the biggest problem. This metastudy suggests that processed meat is between 2 and 10 times more cancer-causing than fresh red meat.

how about cutting back on red meat cos it's destroying the fucking planet

 

[littlebabyjesus]

There are many types of vegetables and fruits that have different sorts of nutrients. Way more varied than meat

All meat contains complete protein, for starters. Not varied, just complete.

 

[Saul Goodman]

how about cutting back on red meat cos it's destroying the fucking planet

No.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

how about cutting back on red meat cos it's destroying the fucking planet

Sure. But the context here was balanced diets and children 'thriving'.

 

[Pickman's model]

Sure. But the context here was balanced diets and children 'thriving'.

You fucking plonker

What's the context? Look at the fucking thread title you clueless twat

 

[Orang Utan]

Sure. But the context here was balanced diets and children 'thriving'.

The context was French kids meals

 

[platinumsage]

Eating meat every day is normal. I once knew someone who only ate meat, bread and potatoes. Now that's not normal.

 

[editor]

There is advice to cut back on red meat, certainly, although some of the studies this is based on aren't totally clear about whether it's the redness or the processedness of the meat that's the biggest problem. This metastudy suggests that processed meat is between 2 and 10 times more cancer-causing than fresh red meat.

Can you find any study that recommends eating red meat meat every day?

 

[editor]

Sure. But the context here was balanced diets and children 'thriving'.

Be hard for kids to thrive on a dying planet.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

The context was French kids meals

The context was your post about a diet for kids that includes meat every day not being balanced and not allowing kids to thrive.

Then you followed it up with some nonsense about how eating some meat every day can't be balanced because a balanced diet involves eating lots of different things.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Can you find any study that recommends eating red meat meat every day?

No. Can you find any post of mine that suggests people should do that?

Clue: Not all meat is red meat.

 

[Saul Goodman]

The context was French kids meals

Seems there's not enough meat in them, of late.

 

[editor]

No. Can you find any post of mine that suggests people should do that?

It's hard to get a straight answer out of you with your usual pro-meat quibbling, as witnessed in the post I responded to. But are you we agreed: red meat no more than three times a week (and obviously far less if you're interested the environment as well as your health)?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

It's hard to get a straight answer out of you with your usual pro-meat quibbling,

Bullshit. You just aren't reading what I write.

 

[Pickman's model]

Bullshit. You just aren't reading what I write.

 

[editor]

Bullshit. You just aren't reading what I write.

If you like. But let's clear it up: are you we agreed that people should eat red meat no more than three times a week, and far less if they're interested the environment as well as their health?

 

[Pickman's model]

No. Can you find any post of mine that suggests people should do that?

Clue: Not all meat is red meat.

No, some of it's more cancer causing

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

I am eating a lot more fish nowadays instead of meat. It feels like it’s better for me health wise, but I’m guessing from an environmental POV it’s still terrible.

 

[Pickman's model]

I am eating a lot more fish nowadays instead of meat. It feels like it’s better for me health wise, but I’m guessing from an environmental POV it’s still terrible.

Don't eat too much as fish has its own health issues eg heavy metals in some sorts and issues round farmed fish

 

[steeplejack]

I eat a small pack of bacon about once every six weeks. I eat lamb in the curryhouse therefore not for over a year. Occasionally will come across red meat in a ready meal once a fortnight.

I eat fish 2-3 times a week. This is a considerably 'leaner' and less red meat dependent diet, than I remember from the late 70s and early 80s where red meat was usually found in dinner every other days (stew, mince, sausage, ribs, liver). Can't really imagine eating the last two now.

I do not have children and have no interest in them so I see that as having a far bigger environmental impact than giving up the small amount of red meat I eat presently.

Whey-faced, oat milk-slupring, hairshirt-attired martyrdom is deeply unattractive, and probably puts people off the message just as much as lardarses on two burgers a day or Texans who eat steak for breakfast.

 

[NoXion]

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I’m not exactly eating steak every meal, and often have veggie meals (these are becoming more frequent too), but I’d struggle to think of a day where there wasn’t something with meat in it at some point.

Same here. It's not a proper meal if it doesn't have meat or dairy, as far as I'm concerned. Veggies just don't fill me up properly, and I get hungry again sooner. Carbs are similar.