phildwyer said:
Even if he's sure he's being fitted up?
Especially.
Do you think he should face the allegations In Sweden - regardless of what he thinks.
If he's sure he's being fitted up and that there isn't anyone out there that thinks she has been raped by him, and he believes that if he goes to Sweden something bad will happen to him, he should still go? Do you really think that?
If he knows he's being fitted up, I can see why he would do everything he possibly can to avoid going to Sweden.
Er...what if there is a woman who thinks she has been raped by him. You know, the actual situation.
'the actual situation'? You know what the actual situation is? You know more than me in that case.
It's pretty clear that there is at least one woman who claims she was raped. Do you deny this? If not, that is the actual situation.
Can you answer the question? This glib little trick is not good enough. I asked you if you think he should go to sweden to answer the rape and other charges, not what he would do if he thinks something.
I think i do, and i think many others do - given that rape is one of the things they want to extradite him for. Do keep up.
And he has claimed that this is part of a plot to get him. Two claims that are both part of the actual situation.
Do you now recognise that there is a rape claim against him? That's a start.
I'd say the rape allegation is a little less extraordinary than his plot allegation. Meaning, if he's got any balls he'd face the charges.
The actual situation that you didn't know about?
You don't believe him. Fine. I find his allegation at least plausible. So to answer butchersapron's question, I don't know. I don't know whether or not he's being fitted up.
The quality of the claim is not what should be talked about - that it is being claimed is what is key.
I didn't ask you that - i did ask you not to offer glib cowardly get outs.
Doesn't matter if I believe him or not. He's a coward plain and simple, for running away from rape charges.
Fair point.
I now have no idea what you're on about. It's not glib or cowardly - it's quite a straightforward answer. You asked me whether Assange should go to Sweden. I answered 'I don't know, depends whether he really is being fitted up or not'. As for me waffling on about the rule of law, you've lost me.
Answer this then - why should Assange's claim that he's the victim of a plot take precedence over this woman's claim that she was raped?
Take precedence with whom?
With Assange. With the courts. What kinda plotters would plan to abduct/extradite Assange in one of the least authoritarian countries in the world?
The sheer ineptitude does suggest that government employees are at work here
With anyone.
