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Assange seeks asylum in Ecuador embassy, London

butchersapron said:
Why 'get in there'? It changes nothing.

And why do you support giving him political asylum? Why do you see that as a victory?
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i think it's a defeat for common sense, supporting assange, because he should be answering charges of sexual assault / rape. if the united states really wanted him, they'd have him. i think they'd really rather forget about wikileaks and about julian assange, and would hope that the rest of the world forgot about him too. which won't now happen for quite some time. in addition, i doubt that the government would have gone to all this effort for anyone else accused of criminal behaviour - it makes assange out to be a special case of some sort.
 
AKA pseudonym said:
I'm no Assange fanboi by any means... tbh: I think he is an egotistic dick BUT.....
Its the principle innit?
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yeh, i think most people have been put in the invidious position of supporting gallant little ecuador because of the government's utter fuckwittery, when pretty much everyone thinks rapists / people accused of rape should face a court.
 
So now that Ecuador has granted Assange Asylum I assume it makes it more problematic should UK police enter the embassy and detain Assange. A right mess now.
 
So what's the score, does he stay in the embassy until he dies, or does he try to get in a car to Heathrow and get nicked?
 
Bahnhof Strasse said:
So what's the score, does he stay in the embassy until he dies, or does he try to get in a car to Heathrow and get nicked?
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No, I think he stays in the Ecuador embassy until it is declared a non embassy and entered by uk plod and he is arrested. Or failing that he jumps ship and applies anew to the Columbian embassy for asylum (they are in the same building) and tries to delay things yet further.
 
weltweit said:
No, I think he stays in the Ecuador embassy until it is declared a non embassy and entered by uk plod and he is arrested. Or failing that he jumps ship and applies anew to the Columbian embassy for asylum (they are in the same building) and tries to delay things yet further.
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Not necessarily any need to do that - coppers have been into diplomatic territory to arrest non-diplomats before. Frankly, a war of annihilation with Ecuador might be the quicker option.
 
butchersapron said:
He has an arselicking relationship with the state and president of some years standing. But this decision changes nothing legally.
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changes nothing legally, but it makes things rather more difficult for the government in terms of publick opinion and relations with argentina / south american blockade of the falklands. it's a bloody stupid position to be in. yeh, you're right that it hasn't changed what can be done: but now doing it would make the government look poor on the international stage, which with the recent business over the falklands isn't good for cameron. i think it'll also add some more pressure on the lib dem / tory coalition faultlines. no, it won't break it. but i think that every little fracture makes it less likely that the next general election will be in 2015.
 
butchersapron said:
Not necessarily any need to do that - coppers have been into diplomatic territory to arrest non-diplomats before. Frankly, a war of annihilation with Ecuador might be the quicker option.
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there's rather a difference between eg the 'those pesky kids' being nicked in the argentinian embassy about ten years ago and any potential arrest of assange.
 
Pickman's model said:
changes nothing legally, but it makes things rather more difficult for the government in terms of publick opinion and relations with argentina / south american blockade of the falklands. it's a bloody stupid position to be in. yeh, you're right that it hasn't changed what can be done: but now doing it would make the government look poor on the international stage, which with the recent business over the falklands isn't good for cameron. i think it'll also add some more pressure on the lib dem / tory coalition faultlines. no, it won't break it. but i think that every little fracture makes it less likely that the next general election will be in 2015.
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I think not doing anything would make them look worse in all honesty. That doesn't mean i think they'll go bombing in - i think the variouis states here have pretty much the same interest. Ecuador wants to play the plucky anti-imperialist defeated by larger powers - GB wants to play the larger power role. Only leading to one mutually beneficial result.
 
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