Assange seeks asylum in Ecuador embassy, London

[butchersapron]

The Swedish authorities never charged Assange, this is quite an important point, so it is not correct to say that charges have been dropped.

It's quite important to understand that the stage the swedish investigation had reached is legally the equivalent of formal charging in our legal system.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

the UK has not commented on whether it has received an extradition request from the US, where Mr Assange could, potentially, face trial.

My shiny-shilling's on; Request received.

 

[elbows]

I wonder if Trump will follow the not forgiving and forgetting path that assange recommends.. Given he's reversed on his related pre-election promises around Syria etc

Well they have plenty in common. The inability to play well with others, their relations with the media, interesting relationships with Russia.....

 

[danny la rouge]

 

[squirrelp]

So the truth is out, the Swedes don't want him - they have no case, the Yanks want his head on a stick. Pretty understandable why he holed up with the Ecuadorians.

 

[MightyTibberton]

I think the Swedes have a case, but they just admit they have no realistic prospect of advancing it. Haven't they said that should he ever tip up in Stockholm he'd be arrested and the case started up again. And the accuser is reportedly very upset about this development.

I'm very late to this discussion and I've probably missed it, but I never quite understood the American case - can a foreign national in a foreign country commit a crime against the laws of a country they're not in?

This is why I'm not a lawyer, maybe.

 

[Almor]

So the truth is out, the Swedes don't want him - they have no case, the Yanks want his head on a stick. Pretty understandable why he holed up with the Ecuadorians.

It's always been understandable why he holed up in the Ecuadorian embassy, to dodge questioning regarding rape allegations in Sweden, it has never been conscionable

Veterans for peace Facebook have shared three or four 'free Assange' things since Chelsea Manning's release, one of them a John Pilger article that looked like evidence free rambling through the various justifications that people that support Assange have made over his years of self imposed detention, I expect all those excuses will get a new airing now

 

[elbows]

So the truth is out, the Swedes don't want him - they have no case, the Yanks want his head on a stick. Pretty understandable why he holed up with the Ecuadorians.

“If he, at a later date, makes himself available, I will be able to decide to resume the investigation immediately.”

Swedish prosecutors drop Julian Assange rape investigation

 

[squirrelp]

“If he, at a later date, makes himself available, I will be able to decide to resume the investigation immediately.”

Swedish prosecutors drop Julian Assange rape investigation

Notice the very careful wording. Not "I will resume the investigation immediately". This statement contains no meaning whatsoever.

 

[Pickman's model]

Notice the very careful wording. Not "I will resume the investigation immediately". This statement contains no meaning whatsoever. Treat everything they are coming out with as misleading rubbish, and you won't be far off.

loonery abounds

 

[Pickman's model]

The Swedish authorities never charged Assange, this is quite an important point, so it is not correct to say that charges have been dropped.

you are one of the secret chiefs of pedantry

 

[Pickman's model]

i hear ecuadorian diplomats in london are preparing a party for the day yer man goes

 

[Yossarian]

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Poor bastards are going to have to cancel the fiesta when they find out that story is from InfoWars.

 

[Pickman's model]

Poor bastards are going to have to cancel the fiesta when they find out that story is from InfoWars.

the room he's been using is scheduled for a deep clean within minutes of his departure. it is a little known fact there are neither baths nor showers within the embassy.

 

[Dogsauce]

So Trump can pardon offences that took place in Sweden now? Funny old world.

 

[elbows]

Poor bastards are going to have to cancel the fiesta when they find out that story is from InfoWars.

And the source for some of the mysterious coded revelations is QAnon, the 'top government source' that posts to 4chan and almost singlehandedly created 'The Storm conspiracy'.

The Storm Is the New Pizzagate — Only Worse

 

[teqniq]

So to summarise, a fair bit of wishful thinking going on there from people with really dodgy views.

e2a elbows Jeez that article...

 

[Pickman's model]

Poor bastards are going to have to cancel the fiesta when they find out that story is from InfoWars.

yeh. pictures from the ecuadorian embassy this morning showed staff beaming as they arrived at work clutching copies of the mail and then leaving the building weeping when they found it was fake news.

 

[elbows]

Mind you I was pretty sad that there wasnt much response to the hilarious private twitter exchanges between wikileaks/assange and team trump when I posted about it in another thread last year.

I cant say they changed my opinion about Assange and his modus operandi, which was originally formed before the sex crime stuff and was largely based on Assanges dodgy attitude towards information and his ownership and control of it, delivered with arrogant relish during an interview with business magazine years ago. Will try and track that one down again one day for the hindsight laughs.

Wikileaks twitter direct messages to Donald Trump Jr revealed

The Secret Correspondence Between Donald Trump Jr. and WikiLeaks

On October 3, 2016, WikiLeaks wrote again. “Hiya, it’d be great if you guys could comment on/push this story,” WikiLeaks suggested, attaching a quote from then-Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton about wanting to “just drone” WikiLeaks founder, Julian Assange.

“Already did that earlier today,” Trump Jr. responded an hour-and-a-half later. “It’s amazing what she can get away with.”

“Hey Don. We have an unusual idea,” WikiLeaks wrote on October 21, 2016. “Leak us one or more of your father’s tax returns.” WikiLeaks then laid out three reasons why this would benefit both the Trumps and WikiLeaks. One, The New York Times had already published a fragment of Trump’s tax returns on October 1; two, the rest could come out any time “through the most biased source (e.g. NYT/MSNBC).”

It is the third reason, though, WikiLeaks wrote, that “is the real kicker.” “If we publish them it will dramatically improve the perception of our impartiality,” WikiLeaks explained. “That means that the vast amount of stuff that we are publishing on Clinton will have much higher impact, because it won’t be perceived as coming from a ‘pro-Trump’ ‘pro-Russia’ source.” It then provided an email address and link where the Trump campaign could send the tax returns, and adds, “The same for any other negative stuff (documents, recordings) that you think has a decent chance of coming out. Let us put it out.”

Trump Jr. did not respond to these messages either, but WikiLeaks was undeterred. “Hi Don. Hope you’re doing well!” WikiLeaks wrote on December 16 to Trump Jr., who was by then the son of the president-elect. “In relation to Mr. Assange: Obama/Clinton placed pressure on Sweden, UK and Australia (his home country) to illicitly go after Mr. Assange. It would be real easy and helpful for your dad to suggest that Australia appoint Assange ambassador to [Washington,] DC.”

WikiLeaks even imagined how Trump might put it: “‘That’s a real smart tough guy and the most famous australian [sic] you have!’ or something similar,” WikiLeaks wrote. “They won’t do it but it will send the right signals to Australia, UK + Sweden to start following the law and stop bending it to ingratiate themselves with the Clintons.” (On December 7, Assange, proclaiming his innocence, had released his testimony in front of London investigators looking into accusations that he had committed alleged sexual assault.)

Comedy!

 

[MightyTibberton]

It has long been the argument of some who make the pro-Assange case that the Swedish charges were cooked up under pressure from the US Government as a pretext to get him into the judicial system in a country from which he could be extradited.

As I understand it wouldn't he be arrested for running out on his bail in the UK in the first instance?

 

[not-bono-ever]

Assange to take legal action against Ecuador

 

[Wilf]

Assange to take legal action against Ecuador

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