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You've done a very good job of not arguing anything at all in this thread. Just throwing around weasel words and inferences, muddying the water as Danny said. It's contemptible.
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You've done a very good job of not arguing anything at all in this thread. Just throwing around weasel words and inferences, muddying the water as Danny said. It's contemptible.
butchersapron
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Ferrett words. You will look back on this and feel bad in later years smmudge.
danny la rouge
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What have you argued, then? Anything?
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
as much as any, by and large
smmudge
i know the smudge is true
Actually my argument has been fairly clear, now I look back. It has been why it seems Assange is not willing to go to Sweden: because he fears extradition to the US if he does. Really simple, and pretty obvious. I suspect people have a problem with that because they want me to be arguing something else, i.e. what Assange should do. I've never said he shouldn't go to Sweden, merely that I can understand why he isn't. Neither am I going to argue that he shouldn't go to Sweden, in fact I believe the opposite.
butchersapron
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Streathamite
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Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
but why on earth should he think extradition to the US is more likely from sweden than the UK?
butchersapron
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This has not been your argument at all. Your argument was that he should fight going to Sweden with all he's got for a host of reasons that you inexpertly lifted from Burke/Pilger. Now you've bothered doing a bit more reading you're reversing as fast as you can whilst pretending that you meant to drive up there all along. Have some dignity.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
because - obviously, I'd've thought, if the chances of the US successfully applying to the UK for extradition are n't less than therm applying to sweden, your case for him fighting againbst extradition to sweden goes right out of the window
butchersapron
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Keep up streathers, there never was any such position put forward by smmudge. Apparently. As of recent.
smmudge
i know the smudge is true
Doesn't that assume that he would stay in the UK?
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
When did he develop that fear? It must have been after August 18th 2010, when he applied for a residency permit. According to you, it was before the reports came out properly in December 2010 that the US were looking for ways to prosecute him (304). You are sure of that (321).
So, between August 18th 2010 and December 2010, he developed a fear of extradition to the US. Was that before or after Sweden issued an international arrest warrant on November 20th?
butchersapron
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No it doesn't, it says that the situation is the same in sweden as the UK so the argument that he must stay in the UK crumbles.
butchersapron
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You keep up too, smmudge thinks that he should go to sweden and has said so all along in her consistent posts.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Yes. I'm with the program. He should go to Sweden, but won't because of this fear he developed. I'm trying to establish when that fear took hold.
elbows
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When someone explained Swedens sex laws to him?
butchersapron
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Of smmudge? Around 11 this morning.
smmudge
i know the smudge is true
I think he has been wary of America trying to prosecute him for a long time. It was probably only around the time of the arrest warrant that he feared that Sweden would be the one to extradite him, and no doubt the US decided to put more fear in him by having reports published in the media about their investigations.
butchersapron
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Yes, popping out now, i may be some time. I'll def be back for that october meeting no probs.
butchersapron
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So, to avoid extradition to the US he ran to country with a closer political relationship but the same extradition laws as sweden. Right. That's why he did that.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
That's really what you think is it? Be sure now before you reply.
smmudge
i know the smudge is true
Why else wouldn't he want to go to Sweden? Oh, it must be because he's guilty. Let's face it, he's already had his trial anyway.
butchersapron
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Gotcha!
butchersapron
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In that case you should swing back to him not going to sweden. Shouldn't you?
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
so I see...
butchersapron
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Hang on, it may be back to must stay in the UK soon if recent logic is followed through...so I see...
Wilf
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