butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Are the last days at hand fattboy?
invisibleplanet said:Are you a revert, or an rapturist? Which sect/school reverted you? The Tablighi i Jamaat?
Anyway. What has all this "end-of-days" claptrap got to do with the status of women in some Islamic countries?
(Not Syria, which is quite alot more advanced in women's rights by comparison to other ME countries).
fattboy said:
• People will walk in the marketplace with their thighs exposed
People will walk in the marketplace with their thighs exposed
Men will begin to wear silk
Female singers and musical instruments will become popular
You're a Salafi revert, yes? Coming from a Evangelical Christian tradition formerly?fattboy said:im a salafi btw.
fattboy said:Jesus pbuh was sent by Allah, the same way the Prophet pbuh him was, with one message, to worship Allah alone, only Jesus was sent 2 the Israelites alone, and the Prophet pbuh, the final Messenger, came 4 all mankind.
of course there will be similarities between the ppl of the book, the 3 Abrahamic faiths, in creed as they all came from Allah, but only the scripture of Islam and the sahih hadith remained undistorted and unaltered, and protected by Allah.
im a salafi btw.
fattboy said:
Poi E said:
What happens if you don't type "pbuh"? Do you go to hell or something?
butchersapron said:A man will leave his home and his thigh or hip will tell him what is happening back at his home (Ahmad)
Has this happened? Should we worry?
fattboy said:ive heard this explained as mobile phones or other similar devices, isnt 2 hard 2 forsee in the near future.
fattboy said:things r getting worse and worse, and will continue 2 do so,in general, until Jesus peace be upon him returns.
the Prophet peace be upon him mentioned events that would happen that would indicate the end times,some minor and some major ones.
all the minor signs have been fufilled,at least once, the major ones will happen only once, and AFAIK once the first of the major signs occurs, the others will follow in quick succession.
Honestly, why Salafi?fattboy said:ive heard this explained as mobile phones or other similar devices, isnt 2 hard 2 forsee in the near future.
Children will be foul (at-Tabarani, al-Hakim)
Women will conspire (at-Tabarani, al-Hakim)
frogwoman said:i appreciate the fact you're religious ... and should come with a mental health warning
People will refuse when offerred food.
What happens if you don't type "pbuh"? Do you go to hell or something?
Poi E said:text corrected.
kyser_soze said:It's Xtian leetspk for pwnd or summat.
Maybe you have pbuhcats or something...
frogwoman said:This end times shit makes me feel sick tbh
i would just like to say that i dont believe in any kind of this nonsense
It is designed to appeal to people with mental health problems and can actually end up making those problems worse
none of this is real and a lot of the minor stuff is stuff that just happens anyway and referred to the "problems" of the society in which it was written (seventh century saudi arabia)
do you really think that "men lieing with men and women lieing with women" is a sign of the end when it has happened throughout human history and in teh animal kingdom and the world hasn't ended yet?
Salafism (when not moderate) is sometimes is presented to reverts as primitivist - rejecting technology and 'modern' ways.butchersapron said:But that's mental.
invisibleplanet said:You're a Salafi revert, yes? Coming from a Evangelical Christian tradition formerly?
And do your Salafi brothers teach you to hate your Shi'a brothers as 'infidels'?
Do they teach you not to question their interpretations and that reason is haram?
invisibleplanet said:Salafism (when not moderate) is sometimes is presented to reverts as primitivist - rejecting technology and 'modern' ways.
I think they inbuilt a dislike of questioning (reason) into some of the expressions of this sect, but I guess it depends on the Shaykh/Salafi brothers who are in charge of the revert's tutorage.
fattboy said:many shia have beliefs that take them out of Islam, such as directing prayers to 12 Imams they believe can hear their prayers, which is contrary 2 the most fundamental aspect of Islam, Tawheed, that Allah alone is worshipped, without partner or intermediary, the religion of Adam, Noah, Moses, David, Jesus and Muhammed peace be upon them all.
other shia differ from us, but not 2 the extent that they r outside of Islam, so they r muslims.
a lot of ppl see these shia beating themselves with sticks and chains or sufis whirling and other deviations and think this is Islam, when its not.
we have disavowal from the ways of disbelievers but we want good 4 everyone and we call ppl 2 Islam, and we love our brothers and sisters in faith.
ultimately everyone is responsible 4 themselves, theres no harm in differing in an issue provided theres a valid evidence 4 it.
fattboy said:
• Women will outnumber men......eventually 50:1 (Bukhari, Muslim, & Ahmad)
• Trade will become so widespread that a woman will be forced to help her husband in business (Ahmad)
• A woman will enter the workforce out of love for this world (Ahmad)
• Female singers and musical instruments will become popular (at-Tirmidhi)
• When singers become common (Al-Haythami)
• People will dance late into the night
invisibleplanet said:Salafism (when not moderate) is sometimes is presented to reverts as primitivist - rejecting technology and 'modern' ways.
I think they inbuilt a dislike of questioning (reason) into some of the expressions of this sect, but I guess it depends on the Shaykh/Salafi brothers who are in charge of the revert's tutorage. I don't know why, but most reverts to Salafism in Britain seem to be black, working class often unemployed or struggling unskilled, and probably the nihilistic promise of a future revolution is more appealing to their mindset.