American teenager stabs himself to death in front of an open mic audience

[editor]

The 19-year-old had just finished performing a song called Sorry For All The Mess when he pulled out a knife and repeatedly plunged it into his chest.

Walker collapsed to the floor as shocked onlookers were unable to prevent the public suicide.

Some of the crowd in Oregon thought it was part of his act and clapped until they saw the blood.

Fucking hell.

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/861145-...elf-to-death-in-front-of-an-open-mic-audience

(*awaits inevitable poor taste jokes about "now that's what I call dying on stage" etc).

 

[xes]

Bit of a mad one, I'm presuming his song was written/chosen with this in mind. From another article i read on it, one of his friends said that he'd attempted suicide before, and wanted to do it in a public way, and he was sad, but not supprised at all by it.

 

[Yossarian]

A friend of his, who did not want to be identified, told Oregon’s NewsChannel 21 Walker's death did not come as much of a surprise because the teenager had contemplated suicide before and even planned to kill himself in a public place.

"I've been preparing for it for a while, I'm sad about it, but I think I'm in shock, it's like a whirlwind of emotions," the friend said. "It was almost like he wanted to prove a point, like there's no point in being scared of death because it's going to happen to us anyway."

Walker first tried to take his own life on Mar. 20th, the friend said, who helped to have him hospitalized at the psychiatric unit of St. Charles Medical Center-Bend.

He said he warned Walker that killing himself would have lasting implications.

"I actually told him, I was like, 'Dude, this is going to mess a lot of people up," the friend told the TV station.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...at_open_mic_night_in_front_of_shocked_cr.html

 

[twentythreedom]

Bloody hell, that's a bit grim.

Any suicide is a terrible tragedy, a public one even more so. Horrible story

 

[tar1984]

RIP. elliott smith killed himself the same way apparently, not in front of a crowd though. stabbing yourself must take some amount of nerve.

 

[Yossarian]

Bloody hell, that's a bit grim.

Any suicide is a terrible tragedy, a public one even more so. Horrible story

Was Thomas Hamilton's suicide a terrible tragedy? Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold?

It sounds like this guy in Oregon tried to fuck up as many people as he could while taking his own life - he must have been in a lot of pain, but that doesn't excuse his action.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Wow. He wasn't kidding with his choice of song titles, was he?

 

[Steel Icarus]

I read somewhere, dunno where, that males are far more likely to "sign off" with a statement, whereas females are more likely to commit suicide in private. It's not about fucking other people up, I don't think, it's more one last desperate "I am somebody".

 

[TitanSound]

It's not about fucking other people up, I don't think, it's more one last desperate "I am somebody".

Well, whatever they mean by it, it's almost certainly going to fuck people up. Seeing something like that is pretty traumatic.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

I read somewhere, dunno where, that males are far more likely to "sign off" with a statement, whereas females are more likely to commit suicide in private. It's not about fucking other people up, I don't think, it's more one last desperate "I am somebody".

i'm so so sorry but i couldn't help think of this

http://sexylosers.com/018.html

 

[Plumdaff]

I don't think that anyone who decides to do this is really at a point where they're going to think through all the consequences for other people clearly. I think some people do kill themselves to "fuck up" other people, out of anger, fear or desperation, to some that isn't a consideration but it's always a tragedy for everyone involved.

 

[dylanredefined]

Well, whatever they mean by it, it's almost certainly going to fuck people up. Seeing something like that is pretty traumatic.

Since this was America you can only be glad he didn't decide to gun his audience down first.A horrible event it's a pity he never got the help he needed.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

I don't think that anyone who decides to do this is really at a point where they're going to think through all the consequences for other people clearly. I think some people do kill themselves to "fuck up" other people, out of anger, fear or desperation, to some that isn't a consideration but it's always a tragedy for everyone involved.

Suicides tend to run in clusters. You wonder if anyone else in that group will follow suit.

 

[Yossarian]

Since this was America you can only be glad he didn't decide to gun his audience down first.

Yeah, it's not like people in Britain ever decide to shoot some other people before shooting themselves.

 

[Steel Icarus]

i'm so so sorry but i couldn't help think of this

http://sexylosers.com/018.html

That appeals to my "laugh-at-anything" worldview.

 

[goldenecitrone]

Suicides tend to run in clusters. You wonder if anyone else in that group will follow suit.

Yep, you wouldn't want to get an invite to one of their birthday karaoke bashes, that's for sure.

 

[Yossarian]

i'm so so sorry but i couldn't help think of this

http://sexylosers.com/018.html

I just hope I'm not in splatter range when you get sick of being Shippou-Chan.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

I'm going to hang myself alongside all my dakimakura

 

[audiotech]

A friend, who I have since lost touch with has tried to kill himself at least three times. First time drinking bleach, second carbon monoxide (car) poisoning and the third time jumping into the path of a train. He failed on all three occasions. From what I've heard second hand, on the third attempt he's either lost one or both legs, but that's not clear at this time. For someone to do this indicates to me that the pain he feels inside is insufferable. Really sad.

 

[hipipol]

First get your crowd

"On November 25, 1970, Mishima and four members of the Tatenokai, under pretext, visited the commandant of the Ichigaya Camp — the Tokyo headquarters of the Eastern Command of Japan's Self-Defense Forces.[9] Inside, they barricaded the office and tied the commandant to his chair. With a prepared manifesto and banner listing their demands, Mishima stepped onto the balcony to address the soldiers gathered below."


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Bit like taking over Sandhurst over here

I think it takes someone who has left all interest in its true impact on others out of their thoughts

 

[hipipol]

First get your crowd

"On November 25, 1970, Mishima and four members of the Tatenokai, under pretext, visited the commandant of the Ichigaya Camp — the Tokyo headquarters of the Eastern Command of Japan's Self-Defense Forces.[9] Inside, they barricaded the office and tied the commandant to his chair. With a prepared manifesto and banner listing their demands, Mishima stepped onto the balcony to address the soldiers gathered below."

Bit like taking over Sandhurst over here

What he did next - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yukio_Mishima

I think it takes someone who has left all interest in its true impact on others out of their thoughts

 

[twentythreedom]

Was Thomas Hamilton's suicide a terrible tragedy? Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold?

It sounds like this guy in Oregon tried to fuck up as many people as he could while taking his own life - he must have been in a lot of pain, but that doesn't excuse his action.

Sure the world may be a better place without those people, but when I said 'tragedy' I meant it more regarding the people affected / loved ones / other victims. So I'd say that the cases you mentioned demonstrate my point very well.

eta: that anyone can be so unhappy to commit suicide is a tragedy - but no of course there's no excusing the actions of those people. In many ways, suicide is the ultimate selfish act.

 

[audiotech]

I would have thought killing someone else to save yourself would be the ultimate selfish act?

 

[Kid_Eternity]

I would have thought killing someone else to save yourself would be the ultimate selfish act?

This line assumes you belong to other people. Suicide is ones own right, your life belongs to you and no one else's.

 

[Corax]

I would have thought killing someone else to save yourself would be the ultimate selfish act?

"Selfishness" assumes a level of rational empathy which is most often lacking in those contemplating taking their own life at the time.

Judging the actions of mental illness by mentally healthy standards doesn't work.

 

[trabant]

"On November 25, 1970, Mishima and four members of the Tatenokai, under pretext, visited the commandant of the Ichigaya Camp — the Tokyo headquarters of the Eastern Command of Japan's Self-Defense Forces.[9] Inside, they barricaded the office and tied the commandant to his chair. With a prepared manifesto and banner listing their demands, Mishima stepped onto the balcony to address the soldiers gathered below."

Bit like taking over Sandhurst over here

What he did next - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yukio_Mishima

I think it takes someone who has left all interest in its true impact on others out of their thoughts

Sounds like Koga's your man if you want to get things done.

 

[Idris2002]

This line assumes you belong to other people. Suicide is ones own right, your life belongs to you and no one else's.

What a load of shit.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

This line assumes you belong to other people. Suicide is ones own right, your life belongs to you and no one else's.

While I would agree that everyone has the right to self-direction. I'd disagree with the idea that we don't "belong" to other people in a moral sense. There's a whole host of people who have sweat equity in you -- your parents, your kids, etc. If you ask most people "who are you?" They usually respond with a description of their relationship to others.

 

[London_Calling]

Even Sad Ken never died this badly in front of an audience.

 

[twentythreedom]

I would have thought killing someone else to save yourself would be the ultimate selfish act?

In terms of the repercussions, and the unanswered questions, regrets, what ifs etc that are left behind with loved ones (and others) then I'd say that suicide is potentially the ultimate selfish act - that someone can be so desperate as to commit the act, with perspective so skewed as to be unable to change their course of action out of consideration for others, brings me back to the original point I made about it being a tragedy. Of course, I'm generalising here, and possibly not explaining my thoughts very well. But I have had two people very close to me commit suicide, and it's a terrible, awful thing.

Killing someone else deliberately to save oneself is usually murder, and yes selfish in the extreme, but at least some kind of resolution / retribution etc can be effected - the possibility of getting answers to the questions that arise still remains, whereas with suicides that is usually not the case. iyswim...