Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[DaveCinzano]

Didn't Susan Faludi already do that? Expect great chunks cut+pasted no doubt

Are you thinking of Stiffed? Bleachers and Rambo and deskilling in the workplace? That's years old!

 

[rekil]

Trying to catch up here. So we're not racist apart from spineynorman whose racism is growing exponentially but we're all still solidly misogynist. ?

 

[DaveCinzano]

The nostalgist in me makes me think back wistfully to my first twocking - by Dawn Purvis. What did I ever do wrong, Dawn, why did you leave me out in the cold?

 

[articul8]

Are you thinking of Stiffed? Bleachers and Rambo and deskilling in the workplace? That's years old!

yes but I assume thesis will be basically the same - with added twitter, cyberporn, etc stuff chucked in

 

[Balbi]

Spiney's not racist, his twitter account is tweeting in a racist manner. My spotify's been unbearably nihilist recently.

 

[killer b]

Trying to catch up here. So we're not racist apart from spineynorman whose racism is growing exponentially but we're all still solidly misogynist. ?

yup. and she's writing an angry feminist essay as we speak.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Quick!!! Ben Goldacre's about to flashmob Oxford Street Waterstones - Dave and Glinner are odds-on going to appear too...

https://twitter.com/bengoldacre/status/281089846943023105

 

[articul8]

Spiney's not racist, his twitter account is tweeting in a racist manner. My spotify's been unbearably nihilist recently.

My Facebook has been showing existentialist tendencies lately

 

[DaveCinzano]

Related news:

Vice has just bought i-D. Shit just got real.

 

[SpineyNorman]

Trying to catch up here. So we're not racist apart from spineynorman whose racism is growing exponentially but we're all still solidly misogynist. ?

Do I get to be a misogynist too though? I'll feel left out otherwise

I have a theory about how I am racist - it involves colonial consciousness and everything. My realtionships with black people haven't been anything to do with friendship or love - instead it's all down to me wanting to civilize them in a kind of culturally imperialist white man's burden kind of way.

 

[SpineyNorman]

Spiney's not racist, his twitter account is tweeting in a racist manner. My spotify's been unbearably nihilist recently.

I just gave my twitter a right fucking kicking but every time it comes around it starts banging on about rights for whites and I have to give it another slap

 

[SpineyNorman]

which end are we talking about here? cos mine isn't in decline

Give it 10 years son.

 

[DaveCinzano]

She only unfollowed him

 

[SpineyNorman]

She only unfollowed him

You wait till Lletsa sees that - more evidence of the decline of civilization.

Take it next week's feature will be on Penny/Spiney/IWCA/LD/Racism gate (need a name for it with gate at the end but think that one can probably be improved on)

 

[Hocus Eye.]

What has Ben Goldacre to do with the price of sprouts?

 

[rekil]

Do I get to be a misogynist too though? I'll feel left out otherwise

I have a theory about how I am racist - it involves colonial consciousness and everything. My realtionships with black people haven't been anything to do with friendship or love - instead it's all down to me wanting to civilize them in a kind of culturally imperialist white man's burden kind of way.

I always read your twitter in angry stalin voice because of that pic.

 

[DaveCinzano]

(need a name for it with gate at the end but think that one can probably be improved on)

Great GrateGate

 

[SpineyNorman]

I always read your twitter in angry stalin voice because of that pic.

No such thing as an angry Stalin voice, our glorious leader does not suffer from such irrational bourgeois emotions as anger

 

[Firky]

Writing an angry feminist essay in one window and a love letter in another

It's relentless isn't it?

 

[dennisr]

It's relentless isn't it?

only if you bother

 

[Captain Hurrah]

No such thing as an angry Stalin voice, our glorious leader does not suffer from such irrational bourgeois emotions as anger

Stalin would just smile. Then representatives of state security would come knocking on your door at three in the morning.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Stalin would just smile. Then representatives of state security would come knocking on your door at three in the morning.

'Knocking' is the action of a wasteful dilettante.

 

[Captain Hurrah]

'Knocking' is the action of a wasteful dilettante.

They'd also be knocking the shit out of you, after you've been bundled into a Black Raven.

 

[Firky]

Aren't all ravens black? It is a bit superfluous, like calling a snowman a white snowman.

I'd be having words with Stalin.

 

[SpineyNorman]

Stalin would just smile. Then representatives of state security would come knocking on your door at three in the morning.

Thanks - now I know what to do about Laura

 

[Ronnie Rubashov]

To contribute a bit of criticism...after all, I only came across this thread on Sunday..and there's always a danger of being too close and involved to get a proper perspective, I'd like to say that despite the obvious "2 years and 250 pages on one topic!!" type criticisms that might be levelled, I feel that I should point out that...

A) Usually---outside the tiny bubble of "Oxbridge/ a good friend of daddy's / huge sense of entitlement/ mutual back-scratching"---delusional and mendacious fantasists generally tend to be dismissed from professions requiring any degree of objectivity and integrity. As long as she continues to be indulged by the msm, a thread like this is vital. The damage she does to the left requires that her bullshit is constantly called out. Admittedly, the damage she does is superficial in the sense that she merely fucks up the left's image. As far as I know she's not involved in any organisation as such; preferring as she does " non-hierarchical, non-traditional power structures" ie. gangs of clueless cunts in a state of perpetual adolescence playing at being radical and 'inclusive'. This thread is a vital resource.

B) I've read a lot of it now and it's genuinely entertaining and at times fuckin hilarious.

C) she's almost certainly still reading it and getting really pissed off. Her combination of monumental ego and massive insecurity will be forcing her to look in regularly. And on that basis it's more or less imperative that people continue to take the piss.

I must admit, Laurie Penny had never really registered with me other than another posh cow on the media conveyor belt with an unusually irritating style, a ridiculous little girl voice and a tendency toward precociouness and pouting. But I've actually read some of her stuff in depth and I've discovered just what a bullshitting self-promoter she is. However, I haven't seen anyone pick up on this in the letter to the potential suicide. She writes...

" I’m writing to you now not as a journalist, but as a human being, a former carer and a person who has experienced depression to say: please, please don’t do this."

So when was she a career exactly? Caring carries connotations of years of sacrifice and self denial as opportunities and dreams are surrendered for another's sake. When did she do this? How did it affect her career?
Does she mean she did some baby-sitting once...or some house-sitting which involved feeding a cat?

WTF is she on about...'carer'? Can you fucking imagine giving up decades, all of your twenties, say, putting any thoughts of a job, career, financial security or a family life aside only to see your 'tragedy' highlighted by a craven self-puffing gobshite like her...while she claims to be in he same boat? How long before she reveals herself as black or Muslim or a paraplegic?
She must be stopped. Don't be diverted people. This thread is a force for good in a fucked up useful-idiot interweb...and every so often it totally cracks me up.

 

[editor]

193,000 page views so far for this thread. I wonder how that compares with the New Statesman's circulation.

 

[sihhi]

Hundal is the worst of them all. LibDem cuntsock

However as one of the main drivers behing leftie blogging, he is still quite well respected.
Here he is with Elly Badcock (ex-SWP, Counterfire)

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

Badcock snigger

 

[Hocus Eye.]

To contribute a bit of criticism...after all, I only came across this thread on Sunday..and there's always a danger of being too close and involved to get a proper perspective, I'd like to say that despite the obvious "2 years and 250 pages on one topic!!" type criticisms that might be levelled, I feel that I should point out that...

A) Usually---outside the tiny bubble of "Oxbridge/ a good friend of daddy's / huge sense of entitlement/ mutual back-scratching"---delusional and mendacious fantasists generally tend to be dismissed from professions requiring any degree of objectivity and integrity. As long as she continues to be indulged by the msm, a thread like this is vital. The damage she does to the left requires that her bullshit is constantly called out. Admittedly, the damage she does is superficial in the sense that she merely fucks up the left's image. As far as I know she's not involved in any organisation as such; preferring as she does " non-hierarchical, non-traditional power structures" ie. gangs of clueless cunts in a state of perpetual adolescence playing at being radical and 'inclusive'. This thread is a vital resource.

B) I've read a lot of it now and it's genuinely entertaining and at times fuckin hilarious.

C) she's almost certainly still reading it and getting really pissed off. Her combination of monumental ego and massive insecurity will be forcing her to look in regularly. And on that basis it's more or less imperative that people continue to take the piss.

I must admit, Laurie Penny had never really registered with me other than another posh cow on the media conveyor belt with an unusually irritating style, a ridiculous little girl voice and a tendency toward precociouness and pouting. But I've actually read some of her stuff in depth and I've discovered just what a bullshitting self-promoter she is. However, I haven't seen anyone pick up on this in the letter to the potential suicide. She writes...

" I’m writing to you now not as a journalist, but as a human being, a former carer and a person who has experienced depression to say: please, please don’t do this."

So when was she a career exactly? Caring carries connotations of years of sacrifice and self denial as opportunities and dreams are surrendered for another's sake. When did she do this? How did it affect her career?
Does she mean she did some baby-sitting once...or some house-sitting which involved feeding a cat?

WTF is she on about...'carer'? Can you fucking imagine giving up decades, all of your twenties, say, putting any thoughts of a job, career, financial security or a family life aside only to see your 'tragedy' highlighted by a craven self-puffing gobshite like her...while she claims to be in he same boat? How long before she reveals herself as black or Muslim or a paraplegic?
She must be stopped. Don't be diverted people. This thread is a force for good in a fucked up useful-idiot interweb...and every so often it totally cracks me up.

Didn't she have a disabled friend that she looked after for a while? It may have been a boyfriend. There was some reference to this in one of her pieces. Where this friend has gone and who looks after him now I don't know. As for her voice she can hardly help that. She is young.