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Aircraft in Pentagon security camera video

Justin said:
So, there you are, going through the forums, and you see this thread. And you know you're going to regret it if you click on the link and read the thread. But, hell, it's a long evening and it's cold and dark outside and you click on the link anyway.

And boy, do you regret it.
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naw, it's great man!!

I like a good CT as much as the next man, I even read Peter Moon/ The Black Sun, admitidly one page at a time cos' the wild accusations come thick and fast on every page, you have to keep putting it down to check if the sun is still shining outside.

Lol, I will recomend some of this blokes writing to all, as not how to run an investigation.
 
snadge said:
Lol, I will recomend some of this blokes writing to all, as not how to run an investigation.
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Surely he can't be as bad as the truly bonkers Joe Vialls?

That freakshow fuckwit is still asserting that the Soham twins were murdered by the US govt and Huntley stitched up and he's currently dreaming up a new theory that - no doubt - blames America for the terrible tsunami disaster in Asia.

Incredibly, some people on this site have cited his ludicrous fairy tale site as a reputable source!
 
Now I am something of a conspiracy theorist but some of the stuff DrJ and his ilk come up with is just about as unbelievable as green lizard people walking thru dallas and assassinating JFK.

There are eye witnesses that say it was a 757,but because of some anomalies in the shape of the hole in the Pentagon DrJ doesnt believe that it was a 757,and although he doesnt know and cannot provide any evidence to positively suggest another likely scenario,he is therefore happy to promote these fanciful ideas!!!

Surely conspiracy theories do atleast rely on there being some evidence of an alternative sequence of events,rather than merely attempting to rubbish the only scenario for which there is actually evidence,however unlikely you may believe it to be.

By the way i like the way on the link it asks you to carry out an experiment at home to see what results you get,and then tells you what results you will get.But of course the whole basis of the experiment is flawed,the melting point of aluminium does not change if u scale down the pieces of metal.A fire in a wheelbarrow is not going to reach the required temperature to melt the aluminium just by making the pieces of aluminium smaller!!
 
editor said:
Surely he can't be as bad as the truly bonkers Joe Vialls?

That freakshow fuckwit is still asserting that the Soham twins were murdered by the US govt and Huntley stitched up and he's currently dreaming up a new theory that - no doubt - blames America for the terrible tsunami disaster in Asia.
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Jesus fuck - that nutbar is now insinuating that the quake was triggered on purpose by a US nuclear submarine to stop Indonesia reclaiming its Aceh oil fields. :rolleyes:

er, Joe, the quake had 20,000 megatons of energy, several hundred times the power of all the nukes in the US navy.
 
editor said:
Surely he can't be as bad as the truly bonkers Joe Vialls?

That freakshow fuckwit is still asserting that the Soham twins were murdered by the US govt and Huntley stitched up and he's currently dreaming up a new theory that - no doubt - blames America for the terrible tsunami disaster in Asia.

Incredibly, some people on this site have cited his ludicrous fairy tale site as a reputable source!
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honestly ed he is worse, vialls is just poisonous, moon is crazy, he sees evidence in fairy tails whearas vialls just writes fairy tails.
 
Loki said:
Jesus fuck - that nutbar is now insinuating that the quake was triggered on purpose by a US nuclear submarine to stop Indonesia reclaiming its Aceh oil fields. :rolleyes:

er, Joe, the quake had 20,000 megatons of energy, several hundred times the power of all the nukes in the US navy.
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lol, ok editor, I'll retract that
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I've just had another look at that first frame. Is it me or there a large black cloud infront of the pentagon?

If that is a large black cloud then something large has already hit the building so the outline can't be the aircraft that impacted.

Also if you compare the sizes of the 'tail' of the 'aircraft' with the height of the pentagon wall I make it around 55 foot high which is 11 ft heigher than the tail of a 757 :)

So much for 'expert' physisicts and aircraft engineers :)
 
WouldBe said:
I've just had another look at that first frame. Is it me or there a large black cloud infront of the pentagon?
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In those blocky, highly compressed, low res frames it could be anything.

Maybe it was a large black flying elephant with flapping 55 foot ears and a bellyfull of explosives?

There's about as much evidence for that as there is for a missile-firing, invisible military jet manned by a suicidal pilot...
 
DrJazzz said:
Yes, but the Pentagon is in shadow - whereas the plane is in bright sunlight.
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There's no point in suggesting lo-res images can be analysed, it just can't be done. Backing it up with high-res fictional is similarly pointless.
Also these lo res frames have been manipulated, they vary from the frames as originally released.
 

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Anyway back to the subject.

The link I posted seems to be saying that the jet has 4 engines...although I don't actually give a fuck....if you lot are some kind of plane/bomb experts then I salute your indefatigueabilities. I am sure having 4 engines makes a big fucking difference.

What I am saying is this....I have seen pics of the type of plane you are saying hit the building...and the impact marks on the building....and I say they do not equate. You can compare me to some other idiot, you can quote people, you can gang up. Still doesn't mean fuck all to me.

That plane did not hit that building at that time as the 'proof' offered indicates.

No, I am not a pilot.
 
DexterTCN said:
Still doesn't mean fuck all to me. That plane did not hit that building at that time as the 'proof' offered indicates.
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And the Archduke Ferdinand was in shot by a Chinese secret agent planning, successfully, to turn the Western Powers against each other.

Nothing you can say, no evidence, no eywitness accounts of a Serb named Gavrilo Princip doing it, can sway my firm conviction on this, what I just made up myself.

Goodnight and goodbye to you...
 
DexterTCN said:
Anyway back to the subject.

The link I posted seems to be saying that the jet has 4 engines...although I don't actually give a fuck....if you lot are some kind of plane/bomb experts then I salute your indefatigueabilities. I am sure having 4 engines makes a big fucking difference.

What I am saying is this....I have seen pics of the type of plane you are saying hit the building...and the impact marks on the building....and I say they do not equate. You can compare me to some other idiot, you can quote people, you can gang up. Still doesn't mean fuck all to me.

That plane did not hit that building at that time as the 'proof' offered indicates.

No, I am not a pilot.
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thought you wasn't, whatever you may think about your personal little hell and people ganging up on you, also remember there is a lot of people that have a healthy sceptism about this incident, difference is we don't subscribe to the illuminati lizard type conjecture/coincidence, joe vialls spout shite either.

having a little paranoia is healthy, letting it dictate your life is non productive
 
DexterTCN said:
Anyway back to the subject.

The link I posted seems to be saying that the jet has 4 engines...although I don't actually give a fuck....if you lot are some kind of plane/bomb experts then I salute your indefatigueabilities. I am sure having 4 engines makes a big fucking difference.
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erm, but the plane actually only had two engines (there was a massive photo of it right in that link you posted), unlike the four you claimed it had.

Why don't you give a fuck that you got the facts completely wrong?

Do you often state things that are hopelessly wrong and not give a fuck?

If so why should anyone bother listening to you???
 
editor said:
In those blocky, highly compressed, low res frames it could be anything.

Maybe it was a large black flying elephant with flapping 55 foot ears and a bellyfull of explosives?

There's about as much evidence for that as there is for a missile-firing, invisible military jet manned by a suicidal pilot...
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well where do you think the 757 is in that photo?

This is the first still of the security camera footage - it is included, supposedly, because it depicts the 'attack' object. The others just show the aftermath of the explosion.

It's a shame of course that the FBI won't let us see the gas station footage, or the Sheraton hotel footage, is it not? Why could this be?

And how does a 757 get to make a hole in the Pentagon this big?

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and what's this being removed from the Pentagon... literally covered up?

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So secret, in fact, that somebody was able to a photograph from about as far away from it as I am from my PC when typing.

Pity's sake. Do you ever think about what you're writing?
 
That's it?

I did not get my facts wrong...I got the technical name of the plane wrong...the shape and fuel storage system is the same. You think I will change what I think because one has 4 and one has 2 engines? My points about fuel, splatter, damage, mass/velocity/steering/navigation systems mean nothing coz I am not a fucking plane anorak and I confused a fucking klingon with a vulcan?

So now...you cunts are talking about fucking lizard illuminatis and ArchDuke Ferdinand?

fuck right off

boring wankers...right here

every time a 9-11 comes up...same wankers...same shite.....duke ferdinand and fucking lizards...who's the tossers here then? lol
 
Justin said:
So secret, in fact, that somebody was able to a photograph from about as far away from it as I am from my PC when typing.

Pity's sake. Do you ever think about what you're writing?
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Able to photograph what, exactly? :rolleyes:

I suggest you think about what you type yourself before posting, or give it a go at the very least.
 
DrJazzz said:
Able to photograph what, exactly? :rolleyes:

I suggest you think about what you type yourself before posting, or give it a go at the very least.
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Use your loaf. If you were trying to do something secretly you wouldn't have people with cameras a few inches away just because you partially covered it with a tarpaulin.

If that's your evidence, then you have no evidence. But we knew that already, didn't we?
 
I cannot be bothered picking apart the numerous fallacies in that ridiculous post.
 
Loki said:
Really?

Boeing 757-200 info

Oops!
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What are you talking about you fucking wank?

Did you see my link? http://www.boeing.com/commercial/757family/pf/pf_200tech.html]

I did fucking link that didn't I?

It does fucking list 4 fucking engines doesn't it?

Are you just intent on being a prick? no offence but...again and again I say...and I only say...the shape of the 'flying thing' and the shape of the 'blasty thing' do not match.

I fucking said I wasn't an expert on planes...nor am I a fucking pilot. Is that a rule here?

My link says 4 engines..you say 2...I don't give a fuck. Argue with fucking google. I typed '757 fuel capacity'

I'm sorry for swearing...I hope you don't think I am being aggressive or argumentative...or trolling....but get a fucking grip...listen to yourselves.

I say the shapes don't match.
 
this is kinda on topic and off at the same time...the whole 9-11 thing. i've been reading a transcript of a radio interview with stanley hilton - the lawyer taking shrub and crew to court in a class action suit.

he also happened to be bob dole's chief of staff at one time. and went to school at the University of Chicago with a lot of the folks involved in shrub's government.

stanley hilton's college thesis was about how to install a presidential dictatorship in the us by implementing a "pearl harbor type event." which he worked on with above said individuals in the '60's and '70's.

here's a snip...it's really a very interesting link. he flat out says this:

I've known about this since earlier in March of '03, as I stated before. This was all planned. This was a government-ordered operation. Bush personally signed the order. He personally authorized the attacks. He is guilty of treason and mass murder. And now, obstruction of justice by attempting to use a federal judge and FBI agents to inhibit a legitimate civil lawsuit in this country, in federal court.
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here's the link, 9-11 is a travesty folks...it's time to wake up to just how insidious it really is.

http://www.rense.com/general57/aale.htm
 
NuTbAr said:
here's the link, 9-11 is a travesty folks...it's time to wake up to just how insidious it really is.
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Oh. God.

It's midnight. I'm off to bed before the shapeshifting lizards turn me into a pumpkin.

Or before the pumpkins turn me into a shapeshifting lizard.
 
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