Afghanistan: Mission Accomplished

[kebabking]

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This is ridiculous. How can we pressure the Taliban?

Depends what they want - it also depends on how real/effective/sustained, the anti-taliban force/campaign in the Panshir valley is. The leader up there is the son of Shah Massoud, the Lion of Panshir, he was a huge thorn in the side of the Soviets for a decade, probably the most successful of the Mujahadeen leaders - AQ assassinated him two days before 9/11, and SIS had a very close relationship with him...

The Talibs appear to have a fairly close relationship with Qatar, and we have a fairly close relationship with Qatar. Qatar has a degree of influence over the Taliban, and we have a degree of influence over Qatar - the degrees of those influences, and the areas of them are open to debate.

I'm uncomfortable with simply bribing them, but who isn't - they may also need help, amusingly, dealing with their IS insurgency...

We'll just have to see how it pans out.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Afghanistan: UK sceptical of Taliban safe passage pledge, says minister

The government is seeking international support to ensure the militants allow people to leave Afghanistan.

www.bbc.co.uk

This is ridiculous. How can we pressure the Taliban?

Threaten to invade

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I'm uncomfortable with simply bribing them, but who isn't

Johnson

https://www. dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9937841/Taliban-promises-safe-passage-people-trying-leave-country.html

Prime Minister Boris Johnson said on Sunday that if the Taliban regime wanted diplomatic recognition and aid funding, they would have to ensure "safe passage" for those who want to leave.

 

[weltweit]

Anyone hear any details about these missiles fired at the US at the airport.

 

[kebabking]

Anyone hear any details about these missiles fired at the US at the airport.

Bog standard 107mm rockets - originally a Chinese design, but its something thats long been something built in workshops from Afghanistan to Mali. Simple to use.

Not fabulously accurate, but they can be pretty destructive and very disruptive. these ones/some of them were intercepted by be a C-RAM missile defence system.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Afghanistan: UK sceptical of Taliban safe passage pledge, says minister

The government is seeking international support to ensure the militants allow people to leave Afghanistan.

www.bbc.co.uk

This is ridiculous. How can we pressure the Taliban?

By giving them weapons and money to fight ISIS on condition that they play nice with us. All while secretly funding and supplying the other side, of course.

Not that they’d ever dream of doing that.

 

[MickiQ]

Bog standard 107mm rockets - originally a Chinese design, but its something thats long been something built in workshops from Afghanistan to Mali. Simple to use.

Not fabulously accurate, but they can be pretty destructive and very disruptive. these ones/some of them were intercepted by be a C-RAM missile defence system.

Have to admit that I am impressed by the amount of stuff the Yanks took with them

 

[teqniq]

Worth a listen:

 

[elbows]

I see the truth of the 'successful drone strike' is slowly emerging.

Afghanistan: US investigates civilian deaths in Kabul strike

Six children were among 10 killed in the strike which the US said was meant to stop a militant attack.

www.bbc.co.uk

A US drone strike targeting a suicide bomber ended up killing 10 members of one family, including six children, surviving relatives have told the BBC.

The 10 were killed when a car parked at their home was struck by an explosion on Sunday.

Some of those killed had previously worked for international organisations and held visas allowing them entry to the US.

At the time of me writing this the US official line on it has shifted to a new version of what will quite likely still turn out to be bullshit.

 

[weltweit]

Bog standard 107mm rockets - originally a Chinese design, but its something thats long been something built in workshops from Afghanistan to Mali. Simple to use.

Not fabulously accurate, but they can be pretty destructive and very disruptive. these ones/some of them were intercepted by be a C-RAM missile defence system.

I wonder about intercepting them at what I assume would be a low altitude, could cause more carnage than the rockets themselves no?

 

[LDC]

Worth a listen:

I refuse to watch or read any media that uses words like DESTROYS etc. in the preamble. It's the worst Canary-esque clickbait bollocks.

 

[kebabking]

I wonder about intercepting them at what I assume would be a low altitude, could cause more carnage than the rockets themselves no?

It's always a risk, and hard stuff is hard - but there are not inconsequential risks in a 20kg rocket, with an HE warhead, hitting a C-17 carrying 800 people and 50 tons of aviation fuel.

 

[nogojones]

Afghanistan: UK sceptical of Taliban safe passage pledge, says minister

The government is seeking international support to ensure the militants allow people to leave Afghanistan.

www.bbc.co.uk

This is ridiculous. How can we pressure the Taliban?

We could threaten to buy our gear from the Mexican cartels instead?

 

[moochedit]

We could threaten to buy our gear from the Mexican cartels instead?

Coke not herion though.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Coke not herion though.

Snob

 

[ska invita]

..

 

[nogojones]

Coke not herion though.

The Mexicans are doing it all now. Do keep up.

 

[ska invita]

Bullets don't kill babes in arms and they don't leave body parts strewn all over the shop.

What's your point caller?

 

[kebabking]

What's your point caller?

The pictures and video that are available on the internet should you wish to to see them, absolutely show victims in of an explosive attack, not victims of gunshot wounds.

Gunshots don't rip limbs off.

 

[ska invita]

The pictures and video that are available on the internet should you wish to to see them, absolutely show victims in of an explosive attack, not victims of gunshot wounds.

Gunshots don't rip limbs off.

Of course there was a bomb, no one has said otherwise.
What was suggested was that the response to that was occupation soldiers firing indiscriminately, resulting in more innocent deaths, possibly more than the bomb itself.

 

[mystic pyjamas]

Old soldiers say about WW 11 that when the Germans flew over the British went for cover, and when the British flew over the Germans ran for cover.
But when the Americans flew over everyone ran for cover.

 

[jeff_leigh]

The Mexicans are doing it all now. Do keep up.

And both are producing the substandard #3 brown smoking heroin not a patch on the #4 white snorting/shooting heroin, Do the job properly or get the fuck out of the drug trade is what I say

 

[DaveCinzano]

Dan Ciccarone begs to differ

Heroin in brown, black and white: Structural factors and medical consequences in the US heroin market

Heroin coming into the United States historically comes from three widely dispersed geographical regions: Southwest Asia, Southeast Asia and Mexico. A fourth source of US-bound heroin, from Colombia, originated in the early 1990s. The fact that the four ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[weltweit]

Wouldn't the suicide vest also have exploded in the bombing?

 

[planetgeli]

Dan Ciccarone begs to differ

Heroin in brown, black and white: Structural factors and medical consequences in the US heroin market

Heroin coming into the United States historically comes from three widely dispersed geographical regions: Southwest Asia, Southeast Asia and Mexico. A fourth source of US-bound heroin, from Colombia, originated in the early 1990s. The fact that the four ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Will read. Ta.

 

[Yossarian]

Taliban and the Pentagon both say the last US planes have now left Kabul and the war is over.

 

[PERTHBUM]

if you had wife and kids in that shithole called Afghanistan would you try and get to a European country that offered you safety?

 

[Ming]

if you had wife and kids in that shithole called Afghanistan would you try and get to a European country that offered you safety?

Ninj?

 

[PERTHBUM]

Ninj?

yes even that country

 

[Nylock]

if you had wife and kids in that shithole called Afghanistan would you try and get to a European country that offered you safety?

Oooh, edgy....