Afghanistan: Mission Accomplished
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Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
I see whilst all other Embassies are closing the Russian one has stayed open with assurances from the Taliban that they will be safe. 
That's the same Russia who left Afghanistan in the early 80s with their tail between their legs after being beaten by the Taliban, who were heavily funded by the USA, who have just left the country with their tail between their legs.
Same stage, different actors.
That's the same Russia who left Afghanistan in the early 80s with their tail between their legs after being beaten by the Taliban, who were heavily funded by the USA, who have just left the country with their tail between their legs.
Same stage, different actors.
Combustible
Well-Known Member
The Taliban hadn't even formed when the Russians withdrew.I see whilst all other Embassies are closing the Russian one has stayed open with assurances from the Taliban that they will be safe.
That's the same Russia who left Afghanistan in the early 80s with their tail between their legs after being beaten by the Taliban, who were heavily funded by the USA, who have just left the country with their tail between their legs.
Same stage, different actors.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
Charlie is a lovely bloke, he's been bashing on this issue for over a year - he's a former Major General and has been orchestrating a cross party campaign to sort out the appalling administration of the interpreter/contractor issue. He was a signee, along with 55 other former senior officers of a very blunt letter to the Times/Torygraph and Ben Wallace. There's a big feeling about this in Tory and defence circles, but the rumour is it's getting nowhere because Priti Patel is being difficult, and Johnson won't grip her...
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
How would that actually be done though? Given the chance to get on a plane to a country and be given refugee status huge amounts of people would be happy to do that. It's not at all possible practically atm. And now only those in Kabul would even have a chance. Or do you mean a filtering process to get those most at risk having worked for the coalition, for example?
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kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
No, not least because the definition of refugee would differ between the Taliban and everyone else, and the unpleasant truth is that the Taliban could throw a spanner in the works of the diplomatic/ex-pat evacuation if they chose to - which they still might.
not-bono-ever
meh
pres is in dushanabe now, likely en route to his south of france summer estate
Buddy Bradley
Pantheistic solipsist
One of the first things I ever got involved with on U75 was helping out with some web design stuff for a charity 'Afghan Plight Night' that someone here was putting on. That must have been back in 2001 or thereabouts. Twenty years later, nothing has changed. 
MrSki
Who am I to say you're wrong
not-bono-ever
meh
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kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
I don't think I'm spilling any secrets, but the plan has gone to shit - no one was expecting to have to evacuate all the diplomatic staff and the Kabul based people, this NEO was for the regional people, including the vunerables who had worked for the various international orgs, but I fear that with kabul falling today, most of the regional people and vunerables are going to get left behind so they can get the citizens out.
Anyone would have to be on crack to work for/with any western intervention of whatever flavour - they've seen how quickly they will be dropped in the shit.
Biden has done more damage than Trump in 6 short months. Stunning.
Yossarian
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Trump set a May deadline for withdrawal and had troop numbers down to 2,500 by the start of this year - I think Biden must have believed advisers who told him the Afghan government could probably hang on for a year or two, instead of collapsing like a house of cards within days after the Taliban stepped up their offensive. Now he's going to go down in history as they guy who lost a war that was already lost when he was part of the Obama administration....
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
It became an election issue, with both Trump & Biden promising to bring the boys back.
MrCurry
right after this urgent rest
Taliban spokesman rings the BBC and is hastily put on air.
”No revenge“
“People and property in Kabul are safe”
”women can have access to work and education“
but also…
”no one can leave the country because it is the country for all. We need all Afghans to stay in the country“
”No revenge“
“People and property in Kabul are safe”
”women can have access to work and education“
but also…
”no one can leave the country because it is the country for all. We need all Afghans to stay in the country“
In full: Taliban spokesman calls BBC News
A spokesman for the Taliban, Suhail Shaheen, called the BBC's Yalda Hakim, live on air.
www.bbc.com
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ska invita
back on the other side
I'm really curious what plan was made with the Taliban... It's not as if there hasnt been years of negotiations. I'm wondering if there's any chance what's happening was approved by all sides ??
not-bono-ever
meh
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not-bono-ever
meh
rory stewart being rolled out on sky news - at least he knows what he is on about
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Whenever it happened the end would be thus. Biden done it quick so that none of it is on his hands, he didn’t cause this, he ended it, it had to end at some point and when it did the Afghans/Taliban would do what they are doing.
Has anyone got a solution to to the Taliban imposing their shitty rule on the place? Any suggestions at all?
Nope.
Biden’s getting a heap of shit over it but it had to happen at some point. In my mind it says he is a strong leader.
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