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Here's why 20mph is a Good Idea
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About the 20mph speed limit in Wales built up areas? Which goes live tonight..
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littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
This is bollocks. It's posting shit like this that I'm pulling you up on. I walked today from Holborn to bermondsey and because of this thread I paid attention to all the bikes along the way . Lots of them. Many electric. Many deliveroo as it was tea time. Not one even close to speeding.
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
Yeah, but that's anecdotal. T & P has got hard statistics to back up his assertions.
T & P
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So let me get this right. You are pulling this up as bullshit as your personal experience today, on the experience of a single fucking observance?
I mean really, what the actual cunting fuck??
Ultimately I don’t care whatever people I have never met in real life think I am lying about stuff on a message board or not. But I have always been happy to give the benefit of the doubt and refrain from suspect any long term regular posters in here of lying, even if their account of a given event doesn’t fit my preferred narrative.
But anyone suggests I’m making stuff up either based on a single fucking day’s personal observation, or because what I report is uncomfortable to their worldview can go fuck thrmselves.
Fact: I have commuted on a motorcycle every single day for more than two decades, and in the last 18 months or so I have seen on my daily commute a constant increase in the number of illegal, non-pedalling e-bikes travelling at 25 mph plus on the South Circular.
If anyone chooses to believe they don’t pose a danger to pedestrians, I guess that’s their prerogative. But anyone who suggests I’m lying or talking bullshit because what I’m reporting doesn’t sit well with them can go fuck themselves, frankly.
T & P
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The same hard stats as everyone here who has reported close calls with reckless drivers.
So yeah, fuck you.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
But here's nine more paragraphs about how I'm definitely not lying.
You've lied about what other posters have said. You've invented a position where people are saying illlegal or dangerous road use is fine as long as it's not cars doing it. The reason you're so worked up now is that it hasn't worked and you've been called on it.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
I don’t think an afternoon of you walking through the city, clocking cyclists by eye, is reasonable enough research to call bollocks, in fairness. I can’t vouch for T&Ps claims that they’re frequently doing more than 25mph but I do know that scores are doing 20 or more because they either keep up or outpace me (albeit slightly) when I’m doing that in the car. Buses do too. More than half the buses in London, speed down bus lanes, ime.
I doubt many bystanders could tell the difference between a bike travelling at 15mph and one at 21mph without measuring equipment. Twenty is really not very fast and I assume the quicker cycles are e-bikes rather than your usual wanton and furious treaders, so they must be illegally modified if edcraw the donkey boy, is to be believed. I actually don’t have a problem with speeding cyclists. The faster ones generally seem marginally more competent than the dawdlers and at least they’re using the roads and not the pavements.
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liquidindian
Hello
I definitely notice the handful of bikes that overtake me without pedalling way more than I notice the the majority of bikes that don't do that.
newme
Giant in Pastyland now
Unless I am reading this wrong, with a cbt motorbike license you can ride ebikes that can go faster anyway? I was looking at an electric motorbike to replace my current petrol one as the new fuel types have been problematic for various parts in the bike group I am on, particularly seals it seems. Also why bother going to fill up when I can charge at home easily off the road, the possibility of using my legs to reduce the power required from the motor and get fit at the same time seems beneficial both ways around if this is the case.Yes, the motor cuts out then. What he’s talking about isn’t defined in law as an e-bike.
Electric bikes: licensing, tax and insurance
Electric bikes meeting the EAPC regulations can be ridden on the road without being taxed, licensed or insuredwww.gov.uk
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
It would need to be registered with the DVLA and taxed though. The system to do this for e-bikes doesn't exist in the UK, so it is illegal to ride one with a greater power output on public roads.
Having said that I'm not sure many people are stopped by plod and asked "excuse me sir, can I check the wattage of your motor?"
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
You know that speed limits are the upper permitted, not a prescribed speed you have to stick to, right?
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
I’ve been driving in Wales during this period, and I have to say I really like it. I hope Scotland follows suit soon.
Ranbay
The same rules apply
you know what it's like stuck in a lane behind someone doing 15mph and your late for work?
8ball
Decolonise colons!
That last bit looks like unwarranted optimism. I know if I had the option of not pedalling, the pedals would be pretty much redundant.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
I know what it’s like to have left too little time for my journey, yes.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
It's weird how it's fashionable to be enraged by dawdling pedestrians blocking you from passing on the pavement or slow tourists on the tube, but put people in cars and it's suddenly the opposite.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
It’s actually much better for one’s health not to let oneself be enraged by either.
In 100 years’ time it’s not going to matter how I felt about my journey by road or pavement today.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
But but killer steel mincing machines and physics and Oh God my latte will be cold before I get to the next Costa…
newme
Giant in Pastyland now
I meant personally lol, like leaving the house I'm immediately in a 20 zone. So I could cycle that bit anyway. Then after one stretch that's a 60 I'm back to 20s again. Would make the long straight and hill less hassle and get me off it sooner. Then there's actually cycle paths but I'm assuming they couldn't be used since of the over rated motor even if using pedql power. Not the intended use and you could guarantee someone would just hammer it down there way too close to non powered vehicles. Shame as they aren't bad considering and are about to be upgraded. The few mile gap makes a large difference in people cycling it tho. I walked that road in the dark every day for 9 months theoufh the winter. It was absolutely quiet 95% of the time but not being on it for a so long at low speed would have been nice.That last bit looks like unwarranted optimism. I know if I had the option of not pedalling, the pedals would be pretty much redundant.
In over a decade I've seen one person who cycles that route, oddly in a recumbent which is even less visible but I guess they are used to it.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
And rage against slow tourists on the tube is comedy 'rage' anyway. We all know that those dimwitted idiots blocking the entrance are us in other circumstances.
Is it?
Ranbay
The same rules apply
Much nicer soon, cos you’ll only be losing a potential extra 5 mph.
It's been 20mph most of my work commute for over 2-3 years.
So no issues with that really, just the sunday drivers now doing 15mph in 20's
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
If you find yourself yelling “come on come on come on!” at your toaster in the morning, try concentrating on the feeling of the breath in your nostrils.
Ranbay
The same rules apply
I don't have a toaster.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
It's the ones who run to catch tube trains in central town who give themselves away. Only tourists don't know that there's another one a minute behind.
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8ball
Decolonise colons!
Do you have nostrils?
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