A thank you to Brexiteers.

[The39thStep]

Hard to imagine that at the end of January this year the position of some on here was that it would only be a matter of hours before the EU's crack legal team would have AZ in the courts and be emptying their pockets for breaching cast iron contract conditions.

 

[The39thStep]

Meanwhile in the frictionless trade paradise of France where farmers can work, study and visit 27 different countries

 

[Spymaster]

Apparently we are not European any more. According to Macron in this article. More than doubled down now.

EU leaders back 'global value chains' instead of vaccine export bans

Refusal to support measure despite Ursula von der Leyen highlighting 21m doses sent to UK

www.theguardian.com

Some of this is brilliant:

The lack of supply to the EU was emphasised by an early summit squabble between the German chancellor, Angela Merkel, and her Austrian counterpart, Sebastian Kurz, who demanded extra doses. Merkel informed Kurz that the lack of vaccine in Austria was due to his government’s failure to order sufficient amounts rather than a failure in Brussels.

So when the EU don't get enough supply it's the UK's fault but when an EU member state doesn't get enough supply it's the member's fault, despite Germany, France and Holland sitting on millions of undistributed AZ doses.

And ...

“Companies have to honour their contract to the European Union before they export to other regions in the world. And this is of course the case with AstraZeneca,” ...

So they have to honour their contract with the EU but not their (superior) one with the UK!

 

[TopCat]

“It’s the end of naivety,” Macron told reporters. “I support export control mechanisms put in place by the European commission. I support the fact that we must block all exports for as long as some drug companies don’t respect their commitments with Europeans.”

 

[Pickman's model]

It's a bit more complex than that. The entire UK procurement strategy with AstraZeneca has been professionally managed and invested in, with contracts locked-down in English law; whilst the EU's has been half-arsed, unprofessional, and contracted in wishy-washy Belgian law. The EU are now desperately trying to save face by pretending the UK's the bad guy when they've really just been utterly shit legally, and completely craven individually in trying to destroy confidence in the AZ vaccine to cover up their failings.

Legally and morally the EU are fucked on this so they either need to fall back on dirty shit tactics like export bans, or come to an agreement with the UK. The latter would likely be possible (no real need to vaccinate 20 year olds in Britain when 70 year olds in France haven't had it) but they've done such a good smear job on AZ that a lot of Europeans don't want that jab now anyway, so the EU look a bit like the bald bloke fighting over a comb.

Good piece on it here.

#benefitsofbrexit

Phlegmatic English law

 

[bimble]

India’s banned all vaccine exports too, i think. It’s going to be really rough all this, on international relations, and go on for months and months isn’t it.

 

[Pickman's model]

It's a bit more complex than that. The entire UK procurement strategy with AstraZeneca has been professionally managed and invested in, with contracts locked-down in English law; whilst the EU's has been half-arsed, unprofessional, and contracted in wishy-washy Belgian law. The EU are now desperately trying to save face by pretending the UK's the bad guy when they've really just been utterly shit legally, and completely craven individually in trying to destroy confidence in the AZ vaccine to cover up their failings.

Legally and morally the EU are fucked on this so they either need to fall back on dirty shit tactics like export bans, or come to an agreement with the UK. The latter would likely be possible (no real need to vaccinate 20 year olds in Britain when 70 year olds in France haven't had it) but they've done such a good smear job on AZ that a lot of Europeans don't want that jab now anyway, so the EU look a bit like the bald bloke fighting over a comb.

Good piece on it here.

#benefitsofbrexit

Yeh. They don't need it and Johnson won't use it. But perhaps it's for someone else

 

[The39thStep]

India’s banned all vaccine exports too, i think. It’s going to be really rough all this, on international relations, and go on for months and months isn’t it.

They are still supplying the Covax scheme from what I read today. That scheme itself has suffered delays due to problems at a South Korean plant

 

[The39thStep]

“It’s the end of naivety,” Macron told reporters. “I support export control mechanisms put in place by the European commission. I support the fact that we must block all exports for as long as some drug companies don’t respect their commitments with Europeans.”

One eye on the French elections

 

[TopCat]

One eye on the French elections

Are they soon? The anger of the EU sponsored pension and job security changes must still rankle. I am starting to hope he follows in his predecessors footsteps and gets nicked.

 

[bimble]

They are still supplying the Covax scheme from what I read today. That scheme itself has suffered delays due to problems at a South Korean plant

They (Indian production facilities) owe us 5 million doses, will be interesting to see if that’s going to cause loud noises from government or if they let it slide for a while, trade deal to be done and all.

 

[kebabking]

Apparently we are not European any more. According to Macron in this article. More than doubled down now.

EU leaders back 'global value chains' instead of vaccine export bans

Refusal to support measure despite Ursula von der Leyen highlighting 21m doses sent to UK

www.theguardian.com

One notes that Macrons' view that we 'aren't European' on the vaccine doesn't quite extend to the three, £30m, Chinook helicopters plus 100 supporting personnel we've lent the French government so that can pursue their wars in Mali and Chad. 2000 flying hours in the desert in two years from the wokkas, as well as the decade of support we've provided with heavy airlift from the C-17's and surveillance flights from the Sentinels and Reapers.

Man's a cunt.

 

[The39thStep]

They (Indian production facilities) owe us 5 million doses, will be interesting to see if that’s going to cause loud noises from government or if they let it slide for a while, trade deal to be done and all.

I'm really not sure what the details of UK contract is with India tbh. I know India gave notice as it was reported in the UK press a couple of weeks ago that there was to be a delay. The Indian Institute are also behind on shipments to Morocco, Saudi Arabia and Brazil. The only country they are still supplying directly is Bangladesh

 

[Yossarian]

One notes that Macrons' view that we 'aren't European' on the vaccine doesn't quite extend to the three, £30m, Chinook helicopters plus 100 supporting personnel we've lent the French government so that can pursue their wars in Mali and Chad. 2000 flying hours in the desert in two years from the wokkas, as well as the decade of support we've provided with heavy airlift from the C-17's and surveillance flights from the Sentinels and Reapers.

Man's a cunt.

Is that an EU initiative or a Former Colonial Powers Club thing?

 

[Pickman's model]

Is that an EU initiative or a Former Colonial Powers Club thing?

Entente cordiale

 

[ElizabethofYork]

Interesting and terrible that global health depends on politics and profits.

 

[Maggot]

We got rid of pig fucker and his poodle and they took their austerity with them.

And ended up with Johnson, who is soooo much better.

We now allow equal access to residency in the UK to people from non-European nations as we do to those from European nations (except Ireland, of course).

As long as you earn over £25,600, which excludes many NHS staff.

Brexit has exacerbated massive staff shortages in the NHS, which has almost certainly led to deaths.

The UK will not be drawn in to being part of a Euro military calamity force.

The is no European Defence Force, so this comes under Project Fear.

 

[TopCat]

Interesting and terrible that global health depends on politics and profits.

It was ever thus.

 

[Pickman's model]

The is no European Defence Force, so this comes under Project Fear.

It's like the Western European Union never existed

 

[kebabking]

Is that an EU initiative or a Former Colonial Powers Club thing?

Colonial powers club - there are also two other missions in the same place, an EU one and a UN one.

UK supports all three.

 

[bimble]

They are still supplying the Covax scheme from what I read today.

I don’t think that’s right, they’re not exporting at all, for now.

 

[editor]

One notes that Macrons' view that we 'aren't European' on the vaccine doesn't quite extend to the three, £30m, Chinook helicopters plus 100 supporting personnel we've lent the French government so that can pursue their wars in Mali and Chad. 2000 flying hours in the desert in two years from the wokkas, as well as the decade of support we've provided with heavy airlift from the C-17's and surveillance flights from the Sentinels and Reapers.

Man's a cunt.

'Lent' as in hired out for fat profit and are thus equally guilty of helping them pursue this bloody conflict, yes?

 

[kebabking]

The is no European Defence Force, so this comes under Project Fear.

This may come as a surprise to the EU's Military Staff HQ in Brussels, the EU Battlegroups, and the EU military missions in Mali and Kosovo.

There is not an EU Army, and there is unlikely to be ome in the forseeable future, but the idea that the EU has no interest or role in military operations, or doesn't believe that it should have one, is right up there with the idea that UVDL is a competent administrator with a firm grip of contract law.

 

[kebabking]

'Lent' as in hired out for fat profit and are thus equally guilty of helping them pursue this bloody conflict, yes?

No, free and gratis.

I've not noticed your extensive writings on the situation in Mali - could you point me to them?

 

[The39thStep]

I don’t think that’s right, they’re not exporting at all, for now.

Only repeating what is in the Portuguese news tbh . I'll contact them . Can they pm you on here?

 

[sleaterkinney]

Meanwhile in the frictionless trade paradise of France where farmers can work, study and visit 27 different countries

And they can protest...

 

[sleaterkinney]

So sir Keir starmer is part of the government

He leads the Department of Sensibility.

 

[bimble]

Only repeating what is in the Portuguese news tbh . I'll contact them . Can they pm you on here?

You’re being a bit weird. I think you misread the Portuguese news is all.

 

[editor]

No, free and gratis.

And all the soldiers too? Such generosity! So who's paying for it?

The United Kingdom is to extend operations of three Royal Air Force (RAF) Boeing Chinook heavy-lift helicopters that have been deployed to Mali since July 2018, the government announced on 12 June.


This second extension to the mission will see the Chinook HC.5 (fat tank) helicopters and almost 100 personnel that have provided intra-theatre air mobility support to French forces engaged in the Operation ‘Barkhane’ regional counter-terrorism mission in the Sahel region of West Africa. The RAF did not say for how long the mission is being extended, but the previous occasion saw a further 12 months added.

UK again extends helicopter deployment to Mali

The United Kingdom is to extend operations of three Royal Air Force (RAF) Boeing Chinook heavy-lift helicopters that have been deployed to Mali since July 2018, the...

www.janes.com

 

[kebabking]

And all the soldiers too? Such generosity! So who's paying for it?

You.