bimble
floofy
so you are hoping for a proper war to get to a united ireland?
A thank you to Brexiteers.
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andysays
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And I'm sure as soon as it does kick off he'll be on the first plane from Toyko back to his homeland
krtek a houby
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More of a cold war, tbh.
Funny how Brits can pontificate about the rest of the world but gods forbid the oppressed should have a say in their own matters.
bimble
floofy
just a cold war ? How would that work then.
I don't think i'm pontificating, but it is a bit funny that you're cheering the brexit delivered by brits who were not thinking about Ireland at all as your great national opportunity.
discokermit
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the fucking nerve of some people. imperialism is ingrained in them.
krtek a houby
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Strange bedfellows etc
You've given us an opportunity to leave the hideous, oppressive union.
Thankful for that.
bimble
floofy
is that me? lol.
krtek a houby
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Is it?
Don't you think your country's decision impacts others?
Expected them to just sit there without consequences, perhaps?
andysays
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I hear you're a British imperialist now, bimble
bimble
floofy
Do you mean, i should have thought about voting brexit in order to help the cause of a united ireland?
Really not sure what you're saying tbh.
I don't think i'm a great example of a british imperialist though, feeling as i do very keenly the fact that i'm only here by chance cos they let my immigrant parents in.
krtek a houby
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One of my parents was an immigrant. Not sure what that has to do with anything of this current nature.
Voted remain, this self did.
But with hindsight, it's the best thing to have happened. In terms of actual freedom for at least one country.
Britain has its independence. Not that it was actually oppressed like Ireland was, of course.
Now it's Ireland's turn.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
Do you think that your country - or whatever county with a death penalty you've chosen to live in - should consider the effect on other states when deciding it's policies, or is that just something Brits should do...?
krtek a houby
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Do you think anyone here should comment or have an opinion on other countries and regimes?
What does someones location have to do with anything?
The UK has a depth penalty, btw. On the poor, migrants, the working class. Always has done, just not official anymore.
andysays
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Come on now, everyone knows that Britain is the only country with a history of empire, and that everyone now living here is guilty of oppressing the Irish.
The fact that someone has chosen to live in a country with the death penalty, which still has an emperor and which has in living memory been responsible for a war of racist conquest to expand its empire shouldn't prevent them from indulging in a bit of rosy-eyed romanticism about homelands and stuff, shirley...
krtek a houby
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Patronising bobbins and tedious excuses for centuries of bloody oppression.
Again, what has Japan got to do with Irish self determination?
krtek a houby
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Yep.
Seems to be making some a bit aggressive and engaging in deflection, oddly.
The rosy eyed accusations are positively old school Punch Magazine.
discokermit
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Can you supply a list of where the diaspora is allowed to live? ta.
krtek a houby
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Hmm, you had a problem when someone else complained about this self living in Japan...
Tokyo Olympics Composer is a shit
krtek a houby
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Pontins is off the list, for sure
The #ToryScum in a hung election?
andysays
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As far as krtek is concerned, all Brits are equally guilty of centuries of oppression of his homeland, whether it's you whose parents were immigrants from elsewhere in Europe, or even my wife whose grandparents' village in the Philippines was destroyed by invaders from the country he now lectures us all about imperialism from.
Not knowing much about it or particularly caring doesn't absolve you of any guilt in his eyes, if you're a Brit, you're an oppressor, end of story.
bimble
floofy
I get that, and i'm still a bit of an anti-german racist due to things that happened before i was even born so am not totally unsympathetic. But like krtek a houby seems to think it would be normal for an English to get cross or upset about the idea of NI not being British anymore, which just seems weird because i think nobody would care.
andysays
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No, it's "collective guilt" bullshit however anyone tries to explain/excuse it, but what makes it even worse in his case is that it only applies to the Brits, and he can't see his utter hypocrisy in attacking British imperialism at every opportunity, whether it's relevant or not, and simultaneously choosing to live somewhere which has its own abhorrent imperial history, not to mention still having the death penalty etc.
philosophical
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Isn't it a problem because British Imperialism is still up and running and alive and kicking with regard to the Irish, it is a current problem even now, not some kind of dim and distant past issue.
The Brexit vote, which included disdain and disregard for the Irish issue that a leave vote would exacerbate, combined with no regard to the practicalities caused on that island by a land border between two different systems. We have those with influence like Stanley Johnson saying the Irish will always shoot each other, Boris Johnson previously saying that the Irish issue was the tail wagging the dog, Priti Patel suggesting using food supply that may go through the UK land bridge as a weapon in negotiation, as in starve the Irish into submission, the UK itself signed up to a protocol that they want to renege on, and posted on here today are scenes from Unionist protests angry at what their own government voted for.
British Imperialism, and imperialist attitudes are woven into the culture, and that part of Ireland is in turmoil but some of those who voted for it by voting leave (often those who go on about being of the left and therefore the good guys) are trying to cover up the damage they do by saying what their aim really is is a United Ireland.
Fuck those leave voters, they are liars trying to equivocate their way to a soft landing that isn't going to happen.
The Brexit vote, which included disdain and disregard for the Irish issue that a leave vote would exacerbate, combined with no regard to the practicalities caused on that island by a land border between two different systems. We have those with influence like Stanley Johnson saying the Irish will always shoot each other, Boris Johnson previously saying that the Irish issue was the tail wagging the dog, Priti Patel suggesting using food supply that may go through the UK land bridge as a weapon in negotiation, as in starve the Irish into submission, the UK itself signed up to a protocol that they want to renege on, and posted on here today are scenes from Unionist protests angry at what their own government voted for.
British Imperialism, and imperialist attitudes are woven into the culture, and that part of Ireland is in turmoil but some of those who voted for it by voting leave (often those who go on about being of the left and therefore the good guys) are trying to cover up the damage they do by saying what their aim really is is a United Ireland.
Fuck those leave voters, they are liars trying to equivocate their way to a soft landing that isn't going to happen.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
It would be difficult to put my indifference about what NI does into words - indeed I would actually prefer them to leave the UK, with what they do afterwards a matter of so little importance or interest to me that I have no actual opinion on it...
krtek a houby's real rage is that no one in GB gives a flea-sized shit about NI, and that the only people who block his beloved - but not enough to actually live there, obviously - dream of a UI are the people who do, in fact, live there.
I don’t think I believe you. There were another ways out of ‘this conundrum’ for example the UK could have left the EU but stayed within the single market & customs union as many times the leave campaigners said we would and should
So even if NI leaving the UK was your personally preferred option, can you really say it you thought at the time in 2016 it was the only option?
krtek a houby
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Lol. What rot.
You haven't explained what Japan has to do with anything?
You gave out about another poster doing exactly what you're doing, only a few weeks back.
People migrate all the time.
Do they get a say in anything else, once they leave? Do they suddenly stop being Irish or British, etc?
Tiocfaidh ar la and again, thanks for Brexit.
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