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7/7 Home Office 'narrative' leaked: Iraq led to July 7

editor said:
Hey! How about you answer my point? Tell me why I should ignore the research of highly qualified experts in FEMA and NIST in preference to the university-unapproved witterings of one guy.
... because his was 'peer-reviewed'? We know how much you like that. ;)
 
gurrier said:
I understood that you were claiming to have the laws of the universe on your side. I merely expressed the opinion that this opinion is world-class lunacy..

Kind of yeah. The laws of physics are fine tuned to support life. I`m alive so I have reverance for this fact. I have reverance for the order from which we emerged.

gurrier said:
You're not sounding any saner.....

So? I positively want to be called insane. Sanity as defined by hacks like you is my idea of craziness.

gurrier said:
You still haven't situated it within the broad church that is called neuro-science. My skepticism comes from the fact that there are all sorts of nonsense that call themselves neuro-science and that real neuro-science is hard and requires a pretty good grasp of reality which I have not seen you demonstrate..

I`m doing a BSc in Neuroscience. I have no specialism. If I did it would be the brain as a wave resonancy model. If you have an opinion on that, great. As it is, I learn what I`m told to learn. So I have no idea what your point is? :confused:

gurrier said:
Teachers oppressing you by limiting the course to evidence based science? They must be in on the anti-truth seeker conspiracy..

Its called a paradigm.

gurrier said:
gatekeepers = people who laugh at theories that have no evidence behind them.

Gatekeepers = shills acting in their own selfish self-interest.
 
Prole said:
oh gosh don't do that, he'll simply search the list for the least-appropriately qualified person on it, my guess is he'll pick the kinesiologist... :D it doesn't bother him that people with absolutely impeccable credentials such as 'Star Wars' creator Robert Bowman are dismissing the official story... but when he finally does acknowledge the truth - editor will say he never believed the official story in the first place...
 
Azrael23 said:
I`m doing a BSc in Neuroscience. I have no specialism. If I did it would be the brain as a wave resonancy model. If you have an opinion on that, great. As it is, I learn what I`m told to learn. So I have no idea what your point is? :confused:
I have no idea what the brain as a wave resonancy model is. Is it something to do with telepathy?
 
Jazzz said:
Peter Kirsch, our forensic pathologist.

Remember him? ;)

Yes, he was the one that never existed according to you!
Was he the one posting on the invisible bulletin boards that you claimed you read but suddenly forgot about - and then, when challenged, you said you could find no trace of ever existing anywhere on the web, ever?

Perhaps you can finally point me in the direction of these boards now?
And show me some of his published papers?
 
Azrael23 said:
Your best starting place is a book called The Field by Lynne McTaggart.
Well at least I don't have to pay out on my 73 trillion to one odds.

From Amazon: "McTaggart, an investigative journalist (What Doctors Don't Tell You), describes scientific discoveries that she believes point to a unifying concept of the universe, one that reconciles mind with matter, classic Newtonian science with quantum physics and, most importantly, science with religion. At issue is the zero point field, the so-called "dead space" of microscopic vibrations in outer space as well as within and between physical objects on earth. These fields, McTaggart asserts, are a "cobweb of energy exchange" that link everything in the universe; they control everything from cellular communication to the workings of the mind, and they could be harnessed for unlimited propulsion fuel, levitation, ESP, spiritual healing and more. Physicists have been aware of the likelihood of this field for years, McTaggart writes, but, constrained by orthodoxy, they have ignored its effects, which she likens to "subtracting out God" from their equations."

It's amazing that an investigative journalist can have such a much better grasp on the fundamental laws of the universe than every single physicist in the world. I suppose she is, however 'unconstrained by orthodoxy' and that gives her a head-start over those people who publish in peer-reviewed journals.

1. That's not science, it's just hocus pocus.
2. If there is a university or college who are accepting money for awarding BSc.s in this 'field' you should get on to the fraud squad.
 
gurrier said:
Well at least I don't have to pay out on my 73 trillion to one odds.

From Amazon: "McTaggart, an investigative journalist (What Doctors Don't Tell You), describes scientific discoveries that she believes point to a unifying concept of the universe, one that reconciles mind with matter, classic Newtonian science with quantum physics and, most importantly, science with religion. At issue is the zero point field, the so-called "dead space" of microscopic vibrations in outer space as well as within and between physical objects on earth. These fields, McTaggart asserts, are a "cobweb of energy exchange" that link everything in the universe; they control everything from cellular communication to the workings of the mind, and they could be harnessed for unlimited propulsion fuel, levitation, ESP, spiritual healing and more. Physicists have been aware of the likelihood of this field for years, McTaggart writes, but, constrained by orthodoxy, they have ignored its effects, which she likens to "subtracting out God" from their equations."

It's amazing that an investigative journalist can have such a much better grasp on the fundamental laws of the universe than every single physicist in the world. I suppose she is, however 'unconstrained by orthodoxy' and that gives her a head-start over those people who publish in peer-reviewed journals.

1. That's not science, it's just hocus pocus.
2. If there is a university or college who are accepting money for awarding BSc.s in this 'field' you should get on to the fraud squad.

Well actually she uses your holy of holies, peer reviewed studies, from places like stanford and yale to make her point. In fact one of her major collaborators on the book was the dean of stanford at the time.

Its an interesting book thats for sure. But you`ve not read it so you wouldn`t know.
Whats "science"? Please enlighten me.
 
editor said:
It's not me making big claims, bubba.

See the difference yet?

Well the left/right paradigm is false. Thats an observation, not a claim.

You have a lefty forum no?

So you have a false lefty forum.

But you have a forum nonetheless. :) I`m glad people like you set up places where we can discuss issues, I respect you for that at least. Even if your not open minded enough to allow real evolution of the community.
 
editor said:
Was he the one posting on the invisible bulletin boards that you claimed you read but could suddenly forgot about - and then, when challenged, you said you could find no trace of ever existing anywhere on the web, ever?

Perhaps you can finally point me in the direction of these boards now?
And show me some of his published papers?
He was the one that, if I remember rightly, declared that the dead bodies presented by the USG were not consistent with being Uday Hussein and... what was the name of the other one, Qusay.

According to Joe Vialls' article at the time.

I didn't claim to have read the original source of his comment, and couldn't find it, but I saw no reason to think that that meant HE AND HIS COMMENTS NEVER EXISTED which was something you made of point of mentioning on pretty much every thread I posted on for years later!

Shall we send him an email? :D
 
Azrael23 said:
Well actually she uses your holy of holies, peer reviewed studies, from places like stanford and yale to make her point.
I could use peer reviewed studies to wipe my ass - it doesn't make my shit science.

Azrael23 said:
Whats "science"? Please enlighten me.
Theories backed by evidence.

I think your missing out on an appreciation of one of the two nouns above.
 
gurrier said:
Theories backed by evidence.

Which she has, so thats science under your definition.

Science is information obtained via systematic experimentation and analysis. Its not some kind of alternative to religion, I hate the dogma inherent in the scientific community....
 
editor said:
Have you actually checked the credibility, relevance and the qualifications of that bunch of people?

I mean, who the fuck gives a shit what a fucking technician at some obscure school called Barrington High has to say on the subject?
Or some Swedish computer nerd? Or this nutjob , or (spare us) David fucking Shayler?
But I should 'give a shit' what you have to say on the matter? Or any matter come to think of it.
Have you at least watched Loose Change?

http://www.policestateplanning.com/loose_change_ii.htm
 
Azrael23 said:
Science is information obtained via systematic experimentation and analysis. Its not some kind of alternative to religion, I hate the dogma inherent in the scientific community....
Which information we call 'evidence'.
 
Azrael23 said:
Well the left/right paradigm is false. Thats an observation, not a claim.
You have a lefty forum no?

So you have a false lefty forum.
No idea what you're on about.
Azrael23 said:
Even if your not open minded enough to allow real evolution of the community.
The vast, vast majority of posters here have no interest in seeing these boards becoming a magnet for conspirloons like you to endlessly regurgitate your embarrassingly vacuous and deluded fantasies.

So I don't take to kindly to a gobby shite like you telling me how these forums should be run.

You're only here to further your own self-serving ends and spend most of the time posting up the same fruitloop shit while avoiding any awkward questions.

Go start your own boards if you think you're so fucking clever.
 
Jazzz said:
I didn't claim to have read the original source of his comment, and couldn't find it, but I saw no reason to think that that meant HE AND HIS COMMENTS NEVER EXISTED which was something you made of point of mentioning on pretty much every thread I posted on for years later!

Shall we send him an email?
Once again, could you point me in the direction of some his published papers, please?
 
Prole said:
But I should 'give a shit' what you have to say on the matter? Or any matter come to think of it.
Face it. Even you must be embarrassed by some of the names on that site.

A fucking college technician!!!

:D :D :D
 
editor said:
Face it. Even you must be embarrassed by some of the names on that site.

A fucking college technician!!!

:D :D :D


Editor, Discuss the facts, not the people!


Oh Einstein was such a hack, who cares what a patents office worker thinks about the universe?!

:rolleyes:

BTW I wouldn`t describe my ends as "self-serving"

Unlike yourself. ;)
 
editor said:
Found those published papers yet?
What papers? Must you have had papers published to be a forensic pathologist? What are you saying exactly?


God you are tiresome. You could just acknowledge that the man you had proclaimed NEVER EXISTED actually does exist after all, but you aren't big enough, no instead you just continue with your never ending supply of interrogation.

Do you want me to send him an email or not?
 
Jazzz said:
You could just acknowledge that the man you had proclaimed NEVER EXISTED actually does exist after all, but you aren't big enough

Editor does not admit mistakes. Thats common knowledge here.

He needs to read about what that Guatama guy said about ego. ;)
 
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