39 dead in lorry container in Essex, October 2019

[Combustible]

Do you know why? The chinese passports I mean. Are there countries when in transit that are open to chinese people without visas but not vietnamese?

I saw somewhere that Serbia was previously used as an entry point. Chinese people can get visa free entry into Serbia, whereas Vietnamese apparently cannot.

 

[Geri]

Geri I am now trying to figure out who you are as we must know one another IRL

No we don't - I only know Ahmad through Facebook. I have seen your posts on his Facebook though!

 

[andysays]

Essex lorry deaths: Three bailed as work to identify 39 victims goes on

Three people arrested in connection with the deaths of 39 people found dead inside a lorry in Essex have been released on bail. The suspects, two men and a woman, had been held on suspicion of manslaughter and conspiracy to traffic people after the discovery in Grays last Wednesday.

Lorry driver Maurice Robinson, 25, is due to appear in court on Monday. Those bailed were a 46-year-old man from Northern Ireland, who was arrested at Stansted Airport on Friday, and Joanna and Thomas Maher, both 38, from Warrington, Cheshire.

 

[Buddy Bradley]

It's amusing/odd how the BBC have switched from using an actual photo of the driver to his courtroom chalk drawing. What purpose is that supposed to serve?

 

[danny la rouge]

It's amusing/odd how the BBC have switched from using an actual photo of the driver to his courtroom chalk drawing. What purpose is that supposed to serve?

They aren’t allowed photographs in court. But this is the most recent image they have. It’s standard.

 

[rekil]

It's been said here for ages that people trafficking, for prostitution at least, has been a revenue stream for dissident republicans. Let's see where this goes.

CAB's secret probe into people-trafficking gang

The Criminal Assets Bureau has been secretly investigating the finances of a cross-Border gang suspected of organising the human-trafficking operation that led to the deaths of 39 migrants in a refrigerated container. The CAB launched the probe last year after receiving intelligence that the criminal group was amassing significant wealth from various types of smuggling, including people smuggling.

The bureau has been profiling the crime group’s significant assets, which are thought to include legitimate businesses and properties, according to informed sources.However, its financial investigations have intensified significantly in recent days, as evidence mounts that the Irish gang was central to the smuggling operation that caused the deaths of the 31 men and eight women.

 

[Teaboy]

I saw somewhere that Serbia was previously used as an entry point. Chinese people can get visa free entry into Serbia, whereas Vietnamese apparently cannot.

Yeah. Was speaking with my mate the other day who is married to a woman originally from Vietnam. Apparently she had told him the moment the story broke that there would likely be a lot of Vietnamese on board. Apparently its easier to travel to Europe with fake Chinese documents.

 

[Treacle Toes]

OOps.

 

[Teaboy]

Wrong thread I think Rutita1

 

[Baronage-Phase]

"Two brothers are wanted on suspicion of manslaughter over 39 people found dead in a lorry in Essex.

Ronan Hughes, 40, and Christopher Hughes, 34, from Armagh in Northern Ireland, are also wanted by police on suspicion of human trafficking"



Police hunt brothers over 39 lorry deaths


They're originally from Monaghan.

 

[not-bono-ever]

Strong orange links in this operation if anyone was unsure.

 

[not-bono-ever]

I saw somewhere that Serbia was previously used as an entry point. Chinese people can get visa free entry into Serbia, whereas Vietnamese apparently cannot.

Serbia was also the arrival point for the past few years contingent of Iranian migrants due to east visa access

 

[N_igma]

It's been said here for ages that people trafficking, for prostitution at least, has been a revenue stream for dissident republicans. Let's see where this goes.

CAB's secret probe into people-trafficking gang

Maurice Robinson was a Protestant, from a loyalist area, who had loyalist sympathies and his family is rumoured to be connected to loyalist paramilitaries so if it turns out he was working with Republican Dissidents then that would be the shock of the century thus far.

Those two brothers look awfully familiar pretty sure I’ve seen them about before

 

[cupid_stunt]

Does it actually matter if they are from the republican or loyalist communities?

What matters is they are cunts.

 

[N_igma]

Does it actually matter if they are from the republican or loyalist communities?

If it leads to more arrests or avenues to explore then it does matter.

Of course there is plenty of goading and trolling in the Facebook and Twittersphere between the two sides but I think it’s relevant if there is a connection.

 

[Dogsauce]

They were interviewing some Vietnamese folk in Vietnam on C4 news the other evening, and one man said his brother had gone to the UK to grow cannabis.

I’d forgotten that a lot of the dope farms were run by Vietnamese gangs, the sort where they rent a house and gut it for a massive hydroponics set up. There were quite a few of these busted around where I used to live, including one on my street. I wonder if working in one of these places was where some of the victims were likely to end up?

 

[Artaxerxes]

It's been said here for ages that people trafficking, for prostitution at least, has been a revenue stream for dissident republicans. Let's see where this goes.

CAB's secret probe into people-trafficking gang

Both republicans and 'loyalists' are balls deep in organised crime of all stripes.

The main difference is the republicans are slightly less in bed with Sinn Feins chaps in stormont or at least much better at hiding it.

 

[andysays]

Two people arrested by police on Viet nam, according to BBC website

 

[andysays]

23 year old man from NI arrested in Bucks overnight.

 

[GarveyLives]

Essex lorry deaths: County Armagh man, Christopher Kennedy, 23, now charged

 

[andysays]

Robinson has admitted plotting to assist illegal immigration (BBC)

 

[cupid_stunt]

Robinson has admitted plotting to assist illegal immigration (BBC)

And, admitted to it going on for some time...

Robinson admitted conspiracy to assist unlawful immigration between 1 May 2018 and 24 October 2019. The charge states that he plotted with others to do “an act or series of acts which facilitated the commission of a breach of immigration law by various persons”.

During the hearing before Mr Justice Edis, Robinson also admitted acquiring criminal property – namely cash – on the same dates. He was not asked to enter pleas to other charges, including 39 counts of manslaughter.

Lorry driver pleads guilty over role in Essex deaths

I guess he's been signing like a singing like a canary.

Bunch of cunts.

 

[Buckaroo]

And, admitted to it going on for some time...

I guess he's been signing like a singing like a canary.

Bunch of cunts.

Yeah scum, a grand per person for the driver apparently, companies register trucks in Eastern Europe, massively undercut legit hauliers so they get the gig. Knock off refrigeration but then it can get knocked back on the ferry. Life is cheap. Filthy bastards.

 

[BristolEcho]

Driver pleaded guilty today.

Essex lorry deaths: driver pleads guilty to manslaughter of 39 migrants

Essex lorry deaths: driver pleads guilty to manslaughter of 39 migrants

Maurice Robinson makes plea after 39 Vietnamese migrants found dead in refrigerated truck

www.theguardian.com

 

[hash tag]

Saw that. Imagine having that on your conscience?

 

[GarveyLives]

Killer lorry driver bragged 'I hate foreigners' before 39 dead migrants found in trailer

(Source: Facebook)

Maurice Robinson's now deleted Facebook page also featured a post in which the 25-year-old ranted
about foreigners being “stuffed in the back of a lorry”. ​

 

[existentialist]

Saw that. Imagine having that on your conscience?

If there's any truth in the article quoted by GarveyLives, then I do not think that yer man is much encumbered by a conscience.

 

[Thaw]

Supposedly he'd said that 8 years ago, when he wouldve been 16 or 17.

 

[existentialist]

Supposedly he'd said that 8 years ago, when he wouldve been 16 or 17.

Ah, OK, so that's a bit of extra context. Still makes him a bit of a cunt, though. Particularly since he's ended up admitting to what he boasted about at such a young age - that's kind of hard to ignore.

 

[GarveyLives]

As the trial of Gheorghe Nica, Eamonn Harrison, Christopher Kennedy, and Valentin Calota continues, lest we forget:

One year on, we must remember the Essex 39 and fight for justice for migrants