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24 Hours in Police Custody

The cogs and wheels were whirling away all the time she was pushing back about the food at that first interview as she knew she could play the medical card. Feel sorry for people who are so manipulative of others. None of the guys really had much of chance with her.
 
Out of interest would the police be able to seize that money if there was no evidence it was from the proceeds of crime? Can they take it away if they show it was intended to do a crime?
 
“I’m about to lose my shit here” (vegan wrap-gate)

“I loved her. I didn’t like her very much, but I loved her.” poor Graham reflects on his 10 week relationship

“Do you know any nutters back in Scotland”

“can I take the sick bowl with me?”

“He had a reputation. In Bletchley”

A classic, if slightly chilling, investigation
 
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Bugger me that was interesting. I'd love to know her history when growing up. Unfortunately I can see a lot of similar traits in someone I know who I've flagged to others as having sociopath tendencies. Not sure whether old Vicky qualifies as socio or psychopathic but she's definitely got the antisocial personality disorder thing going on. I do love that she thought she could keep delaying and that would stop it all happening. Doesn't work like that love!
 
She was 39 when sentenced last year!! Must have been that hard paper round when she was a nipper that put her back out ;):p
 
Bugger me that was interesting. I'd love to know her history when growing up. Unfortunately I can see a lot of similar traits in someone I know who I've flagged to others as having sociopath tendencies. Not sure whether old Vicky qualifies as socio or psychopathic but she's definitely got the antisocial personality disorder thing going on. I do love that she thought she could keep delaying and that would stop it all happening. Doesn't work like that love!
She previously got away with a similar thing, so maybe she was deluding herself.
 
Bugger me that was interesting. I'd love to know her history when growing up. Unfortunately I can see a lot of similar traits in someone I know who I've flagged to others as having sociopath tendencies. Not sure whether old Vicky qualifies as socio or psychopathic but she's definitely got the antisocial personality disorder thing going on. I do love that she thought she could keep delaying and that would stop it all happening. Doesn't work like that love!
if it was balanced, that was a pretty chilling portrait of a very, very, very dark personality.

there are some truly dangerous people out there. i feel sorry for anyone who has to share a cell with her.

maybe she'll look deep within and change things round.
 
the relationship dynamics were interesting - sort of a trail of "captured" blokes - besotted with her. I think sometimes the darker someone is inside, the more they can have this power over someone - like they compensate for the inner darkness with charm. So when you fall for them, you fall deeply. and then it's too late - and before you know what you're setting fire to an X's car. Love's a terrible risk. Gotta watch for those red flags in the dating game, no joke.
 
if it was balanced, that was a pretty chilling portrait of a very, very, very dark personality.

there are some truly dangerous people out there. i feel sorry for anyone who has to share a cell with her.

maybe she'll look deep within and change things round.
Unlikely she'll change. Similar, although not as dangerous, people I've met will delude themselves and other people into thinking the used up and worn out ones were the problem and she's still squeaky clean. There's a lot of truth in if someone's exes, whether relationships or friendships, are all "nutters" maybe it's not the exes that are the problem!
 
Maybe. Or maybe the jail sentence will simply further file her self constructed version of what has befallen her, who’s to blame and her palpable sense of being the victim.

I’d imagine the performative health crises will be a nightmare for the screws as well...
yes, and i would think, to a degree, a very affective strategy. "no, i can't go to the kitchen to work, i'm sick" - how, as a screw, do you handle that?
 
yes, and i would think, to a degree, a very affective strategy. "no, i can't go to the kitchen to work, i'm sick" - how, as a screw, do you handle that?
Restrictions. Like they did with the food. We'll absolutely stick to what you say so if you say you're too sick to work you can stay on the prison hospital wing with no communication with other prisoners and minimal contact from meds. She does not win and she's then got no one to coerce. She'll have a flat out rage within hours and demand to go back to work.
 
yes, and i would think, to a degree, a very affective strategy. "no, i can't go to the kitchen to work, i'm sick" - how, as a screw, do you handle that?

They’ll just leave her locked in I guess. The point is it’s unlikely that the experience of prison will cause her to rethink. Its more like that the narrative explanation of what has happened to her, in her own head, will become more deeply embedded by the process. If I was her ex or one of the fellas who testified I wouldn’t be happy that she’s likely to be back on the streets in 4 years time
 
The very worst thing they could do with her and people like her would be to put them in that super quiet place, an ultimate padded cell, I think it's somewhere on the continent where you can hear every tiny movement of your own body and might even be negative decibels?! and give them a good amount of time in there. They would implode.
 
Unlikely she'll change. Similar, although not as dangerous, people I've met will delude themselves and other people into thinking the used up and worn out ones were the problem and she's still squeaky clean. There's a lot of truth in if someone's exes, whether relationships or friendships, are all "nutters" maybe it's not the exes that are the problem!
my sister is a psychologist and she said one of the key factors in personality, no matter what the persons behaviour, is the idea of self reflection. This is where guilt and shame can be seen as healthy. It's when there is no self reflection that people can be hurt in the most cruel ways, because the source of explanation for the abuser is always external. She has dealt with arseholes, but the ones she knows will change are the ones who carry the shame and internally struggle with their behaviour. she has met others though who literally have no idea that they are the sources of the cruelty. if you're being abused, it's truly terrifying when the abuser sees you and you only as the reason for the abuse.

she seems the same.
 
Restrictions. Like they did with the food. We'll absolutely stick to what you say so if you say you're too sick to work you can stay on the prison hospital wing with no communication with other prisoners and minimal contact from meds. She does not win and she's then got no one to coerce. She'll have a flat out rage within hours and demand to go back to work.
yes, thought that was damn savvy of the checking in cop. i probably would have dithered around it and maybe conceeded. he knew the boundaries to set exactly.
 
my sister is a psychologist and she said one of the key factors in personality, no matter what the persons behaviour, is the idea of self reflection. This is where guilt and shame can be seen as healthy. It's when there is no self reflection that people can be hurt in the most cruel ways, because the source of explanation for the abuser is always external. She has dealt with arseholes, but the ones she knows will change are the ones who carry the shame and internally struggle with their behaviour. she has met others though who literally have no idea that they are the sources of the cruelty. if you're being abused, it's truly terrifying when the abuser sees you and you only as the reason for the abuse.

she seems the same.
Partly shown by gas lighting to make the victim themselves feel they are the problem and convince others of the same. If someone is reading this now and they're in a relationship where the other person will never EVER admit they are wrong despite damning evidence to the contrary, please reconsider the relationship.
 
Partly shown by gas lighting to make the victim themselves feel they are the problem and convince others of the same. If someone is reading this now and they're in a relationship where the other person will never EVER admit they are wrong despite damning evidence to the contrary, please reconsider the relationship.
trump is the embodiment of this.

can you imagine, EVER, EVER, him sitting down and saying "...you know, I was wrong about that. I got that wrong. I should have considered that. I should have done that differently."

It's just not within him.
 
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