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24 Hours in Police Custody

Yes definitely EncroChat gave criminals a false sense of security. I can't see how it was any more secure than using WhatsApp or Signal on a password protected iPhone or Android phone.
Ultimately, it turned out to be less secure than that because according to Wikipedia the entire thing got hacked and busted by European police joint operation. EncroChat's server was in France and had malware put on it by the police.

Yeah good point. They may well just have used WhatsApp on a cheap burner smart phone. You can get brand new smart phones for less than a £100 now as well not the thousands these things cost.
 
The police can apply for wiretaps that would show the contents of SMS text messages, but not WhatsApp (which is end to end encrypted). Most lower level drug dealers seem to prefer plain old SMS though.
 
Yeah good point. They may well just have used WhatsApp on a cheap burner smart phone. You can get brand new smart phones for less than a £100 now as well not the thousands these things cost.
I think the way that Encrochat phones were marketed alone would've made the cops absolutely desperate to get on those servers and see what was there. <Puts on Lhoyd Grossman voice>. Who would use a phone like this? Features | EncroChat
 
Let’s all be assuming about how organised criminals go about their business, condemn them, yet still allow them to profit through our spliff whizz and cocaine parties
 
I wonder how long supply was disrupted for as a result of that whole police operation?

I'd guess a matter of hours.

The whole system is a nonsense. There has been a generation of Plod etc whose entire careers have been spent fighting the war on drugs. And by the time they retire there's more out there than when they started.
 
This is still on, right? I overextended myself synchronising a catch-up then part 2 then utterly forgot about the rest of it.
 
Was it just the two episodes?
There was another two parter back in January which was also part of season 9 and pretty interesting. I don’t think there’s been any more since the two cartel episodes though.

I’ve recently started watching them all from season 1. It’s pretty good background telly.
 
Encro phones and clean phones are the same phone. The Encro part accessible with a code. That's why they were always 'close by'

I don't think this is true, because according to Wikipedia, "The EncroChat service was available for handsets, whose GPS, camera and microphone functions were disabled by the company for privacy reasons."


The GPS, camera, and microphone were physically removed from the handsets, according to Vice:

"Encrochat's phones are essentially modified Android devices, with some models using the "BQ Aquaris X2," an Android handset released in 2018 by a Spanish electronics company, according to the leaked documents. Encrochat took the base unit, installed its own encrypted messaging programs which route messages through the firm's own servers, and even physically removed the GPS, camera, and microphone functionality from the phone. Encrochat's phones also had a feature that would quickly wipe the device if the user entered a PIN, and ran two operating systems side-by-side. If a user wanted the device to appear innocuous, they booted into normal Android. If they wanted to return to their sensitive chats, they switched over to the Encrochat system. The company sold the phones on a subscription based model, costing thousands of dollars a year per device."

 
I don't think this is true, because according to Wikipedia, "The EncroChat service was available for handsets, whose GPS, camera and microphone functions were disabled by the company for privacy reasons."




"Encrochat's phones are essentially modified Android devices, with some models using the "BQ Aquaris X2," an Android handset released in 2018 by a Spanish electronics company, according to the leaked documents. Encrochat took the base unit, installed its own encrypted messaging programs. Encrochat's phones also had a feature that would quickly wipe the device if the user entered a PIN, and ran two operating systems side-by-side. If a user wanted the device to appear innocuous, they booted into normal Android. If they wanted to return to their sensitive chats, they switched over to the Encrochat system. "

 
There was another two parter back in January which was also part of season 9 and pretty interesting. I don’t think there’s been any more since the two cartel episodes though.

I’ve recently started watching them all from season 1. It’s pretty good background telly.
Yeah, I assumed this two parter was the start of a new series, but after some exhausting googling it turns out it’s part of series 9, where the first two parts were those in January, and there’s no more scheduled. Well, not currently scheduled weekly on c4 for 6 eps or whatever.
I suppose (?) it’s been challenging to get anything substantial filmed during 2020, so I’ll wait 👍🏼
 
Feels sorry for the ex and the cheated on BF. Might be some twists yet. That faining illness thing, 9f that's what she is doing, is very very manipulative. Classic sign of a dark personality
 
I know that there is an element of selective presentation of the facts but she does come across as one very conflicted, manipulative personality.
 
Yup. A cracking first parter last night. Looking forward to seeing if there is a twist in the second part tonight. The convenient back flare up - and the manc cop reaction - was darkly hilarious. I suspect we’ll be learning more about that tonight...
 
Hoping that she gave Earl her ex's address and that he went to check the place out or contacted someone and passed the details on so at least they can be done for conspiracy to commit murder.

It's also going to be interesting to see how she copes when her usual methods for getting / maintaining control fail to work.
 
I know that there is an element of selective presentation of the facts but she does come across as one very conflicted, manipulative personality.

She came across as an out and out narcissist. Everybody in her life is there to serve a purpose for her, if you can't than you are worthless to her. If she doesn't get her way she'll kick and scream until she does. Remind you of any toupee wearing US politician?
 
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