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2004 F1 Championship

Who will take the drivers/constructors crown

  • Michael Schumacher

    Votes: 23 62.2%

  • Someone else who thinks they are good

    Votes: 8 21.6%

  • Ferrari

    Votes: 3 8.1%

  • Some other sub-standard car manufacturer

    Votes: 3 8.1%
  • Total voters
    37
Oh god yes, she can't sing to save her life - okay so even I don't think he's a future WDC - but people have been slagging him off for a few years saying he doesn't deseevr a top drive when he's been saddled with some of the most horrendous cars of recent times - terrible Benetton, rubbish BAR.

Agreed of Alonso and Kimi, maybe Webber too - they're the future and i'll be happy once people like Panis and DC go and let more talented people have the better seats.

I'm still looking forward to this weekend's GP - I don't mind Schumacher winning but would like a bit of competition. Obviously Williams have had a few laps there so know the circuit slightly better but i'm not sure it's really going to help.
 
Actually be interesting if sand starts drifting on track...a small amount is expected. Sand will be a serious engine breaker though support races may not show just how much of a circuit breaker...expect to see Ferrari pit stops with two extra blokes sticking their hands into the side pods to pull stuff out.

You'd think somewhere in that $330 million budget they could afford to give these guys a little equipment to make the task more efficient....maybe I should suggest that to them :)
 
Yep, worth suggesting I mean how much does a dust buster really cost? £15? Maybe Schumey's salary is really screwing them!
 
Well, I'm surprised they don't do other things at the same time like blow cool air into the ducts and everything...You're actually allowed to do that in stop and go penalities too (since you aren't technically touching or modifying the car)
 
Apparently Scott Dixon has impressed Frank Williams on his recent test in the FW16 - was 0.4 slower than Ralf, although the circuit is pretty easy. He's testing at a Catlunya soemtime in the next few weeks - could see an aussie and a kiwi racing for Sir Frank next season!

By all accounts he's pretty damn quick:

Won over 30 major Australian Karting titles by the time he was 12. Applied for a special racing license at age 13 :eek: to compete in the NZ formula vee class. He came 2nd that year, and followed that up the next year by winning 13 of 14 races.

Then moved to the Australian Formula Holden class, came 4rd overall and 1997 rookie of the year. Following year he won it outright with five wins, seven poles and five second place finishes in the twelve race series.
 
Dust busters - suck things out?

They've used pressurized cold air blowing air in, in the past, to cool things down too.
 
Oops, misread it

Yeah, I expect to see lots of holes in the bodywork this weekend to keep things cool. Should be an interesting race, doubt many will finish though.
 
Hopefully not - I want Minardi in the points!!!! 20/1 for a top 8 - might be worth £1. Seriously look at the odds for the win:

Schumacher 4/5
Montoya 5/1
Barrichello 11/2
R Schumacher 8/1
Alonso 9/1
Raikkonen 12/1
Button 20/1
Trulli 25/1
Coulthard 33/1
Sato 80/1
Webber 80/1
Fisichella 200/1
Panis 200/1
Da Matta 200/1
Massa 200/1
Klien 250/1
Heidfeld 500/1
Pantano 750/1
Bruni 1000/1
Baumgartner 1000/1

Given no one really knows the track or the whole sand/temprature factor and some of those are looking pretty tasty - DC at 33/1 really stands out as does Trulli at 25/1

I'm off to William Hill at lunchtime...Trulli 16/1 for pole :eek:
 
Button at 20/1 or even Fisi at 200/1 look tempting, might stick a quid on them both. DC couldn't win a race with himself and Trulli's car always seems to be the unlucky one in the Renault team.
 
True but over one lap he could be in with a chance - light fuel load, 3 stopper - 16/1 seems way too long for a pole chance given the Renault has the out and out speed on circuits liek Catalunya which Bahrian seems similar to.

Agree on Fisi - if he can qaulify well he may have a shout - Webber at 80/1 is seriously tempting. I can't see more than 10 cars finishing and most people will be on 2/3 stop strategies.
 
Hmm, Catalunya is traditionally considered a fairly easy circuit, I'm not sure Bahrian is. BMW have done some running there (of sorts - can't quite remember how - wasn't F1 cars but data is data). I have to say, those odds look a little too strongly in favour of Michael.
 
But it requires decent aero packages and the ability to accelerate out of flowing corners without killing tyres, so Michelin should have an advantage with the tempratures expected too.

Williams have driven there - Gene did about 20-30 laps not long ago so they have bit of data - McLaren turned down the opportunity!!

Agrred on MS' odds - they seem ridiculous at a track with no F1 history and so many unknowns. I've oput £1 on Trulli for Pole 16/1, £1 on Button and DC for the win - yeah I know, but at 33/1 it was too tempting!
 
:eek: Anthony Davidson - WTF!!!! Stunning time in the BAR for 3rd quickest.

Oh piss, arse, fuck, bollocks Truilli's engine has blown so at the very best he'll start 11th. :mad: :(

Oh an Kimi's too so he's going to have do something spectacular on Sunday (other thna blowing up). Looks liek a real car breaker and Michelin have had 2 tyres disintegrate on Alonso and Zonta.

Those odds on Webber, Fisi and a few other are looking better all the time!
 
Bridgestone tyres doing better? Who'd of thought :) They must be using a really hard compound but are still putting in the best times over short distances :)

Schumi! :D
 
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And they did :D

30/30 for Schumi and 51/54 for Ferrari

Everyone else doing so rubbish, Button looks relatively good :eek:
 
button is starting to show some real class isn't he. Also klien fucking hell he is one brave little boy isn't he!!!!!!


danm good race(well if you ignore ferrai pissing over everyone as usual and minardi being the polar opposite and just being shat on)

some really great battles and some really good overtaking moves.

If mclaren can sort there reliability problems out then i reckon this could eb the best season for aggggggggggges.


oh and poor montoya he really didn't deserve to have his gear box to fuck up at all.

the question now is will BAR finish above renult and claim the 2nd leagues top prize!


dave
 
Button isn't showing class, he's had the third best car on the grid and two of the better ones had problems. He's doing marginally better than Sato (who is not a great driver).

When people pick out good drivers, there are certain special abilities they have about them. Michael Schumacher has many (or all of them ;)), Montoya is a very aggressive and good at overtaking with good qualifying performance under the one shot system. They are the only two serious contenders for the Championship this season - the only reason Raikkonnen came close last year was because McLaren had a solid car last year to start the season and the rest didn't (or got punted off).

Klien looks alright, but the McLaren was doing really badly, Webber was able to hold off Coulthard comfortably so I'm not surprised Klien could give Kimi a run for his money many times over.

Bahrain as a track is good for spectactors but must be such a bore to drive...and Williams will finish above BAR in the counstructors.
 
Does anyone else want to know what that fruity juice smells like? The one used instead of champagne...rose water with a couple juices and what not :)

Barichello is unlikely to face a 10 place demotion on the next grid for his issue with trulli in the pit land, Ralf Schumacher, who knows...
 
Well that was a good GP! Oh B Button is a good driver - he showed that at Williams. He's got the pace but still struggles to put in consistently fast laps. Sato is also a good driver but not quite as consistent - although Ralf was to blame for the accident for sure.

I thought Sato's overtaking move in the chicane was the move of the GP :D

IMO it would be:

Schumacher
JP Monotoya
Raikkonen
--------------
Barrichello
Alonso
Button
Trulli
DC
Webber
Sato
Fisichella
--------------
The rest

Anyone else think Frank Williams must be pissing himself at Toyota offering £12m for Ralf? I mean WTF - sometime he looks like he could beat his brother other GP's it's as if someone stole his helmet and is driving for him.

Hopefully with that happeneing Williams can get Webber + other - maybe a real youngster like Bruni who showed glimpses in qualifying.
 
Fisi is way better than you make him out to be - but never had a good machine. After all, he did win a race last year in a Jordan ;)
 
Heidfeld is also a horribly underrated driver, the year he had at Sauber with Raikonnen, he consistently outqualified him and scored more points but was not offered the drive at McLaren despite actually being McLaren's young driver of the year two years earlier and practically being lined up for it. He was driving their cars in lower Formula races too.
 
Yeah those ratings aren;t in any order more how the drivers are grouped in tersm of skill - no top team would choose Fisi as lead driver. I think the only reason he signed for Sauber (apart form Jordan's obvious shiteness) i she saw it as a way into Ferrari, but with Rubens on a new deal I think they'll choose Alonso, Kimi, maybe Webber over him now.

I've never been sure about Heidfeld TBH - he strikes me as a sub-Gerhard Berger and okay driver but never that spectacular. This whole "he's got the speed" idea doesn't hold much water with me - remember Karl Wendlinger? Fastest driver of his generation, apparently better than Schumi at Mercedes and never produced a thing (okay so the Monaco crash ended any chances but he'd not resally shone)

Nick was robbed of the McLaren drive though, you're right.

I guess given a decent car he'd go well and it would be interesting to see if he was in a BAR how he'd compare to Button and Sato. But then I think there's a few more who will challenge him - Klien, Scott Dixon, Massa (if he ever keeps on the track has the speed), Zonta, Davidson, Wirdheim etc.
 
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