2004 F1 Championship
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There's no way Ralf is going anywhere.
I thought that was an okay GP - nothing to get too excited about other than MS qualification. Amazign how all his bad luck comes in 1 race - have to say I think he should have been penalised for his move at the hairpin when he hit Klien - it was for position and TBH if that had happened to MS there would have been complaints.
Glad BAR stuck it Renault...I hope Flavio feels a twat for getting rid of Trulli (who is still 5th in the championship!). I know JV has been out of the game a whiel but he looked shocking - no pace at all. Wonder if Sauber are worried?
Good race for Button, he really didn't deserve 2nd and the BAR didn't really have the pace to challenge but he did well. Sato too.
Rubens for 3 in a row - he's lightening in Suzuka, and i expect BAR to boost the engine a little for the Honda execs - Sato for podium if he holds it all together!
I thought that was an okay GP - nothing to get too excited about other than MS qualification. Amazign how all his bad luck comes in 1 race - have to say I think he should have been penalised for his move at the hairpin when he hit Klien - it was for position and TBH if that had happened to MS there would have been complaints.
Glad BAR stuck it Renault...I hope Flavio feels a twat for getting rid of Trulli (who is still 5th in the championship!). I know JV has been out of the game a whiel but he looked shocking - no pace at all. Wonder if Sauber are worried?
Good race for Button, he really didn't deserve 2nd and the BAR didn't really have the pace to challenge but he did well. Sato too.
Rubens for 3 in a row - he's lightening in Suzuka, and i expect BAR to boost the engine a little for the Honda execs - Sato for podium if he holds it all together!
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Normally i'd cheer for JV, but this whole situation is unacceptable and I hope he fails to finish the remaining races, leaving BAR to get 2nd.
To give him some benefit, he was stuck behind Webber, so probably couldn't get a decent lap in. But then again, he was stuck behind a piss poor Jag, while his team mate was 4th.
I hope he does well next season but I have my doubts.
To give him some benefit, he was stuck behind Webber, so probably couldn't get a decent lap in. But then again, he was stuck behind a piss poor Jag, while his team mate was 4th.
I hope he does well next season but I have my doubts.
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
The return of Mr Vile-nerve is not going to be greeted with whoops and cheers in this corner of F1 fandom.
Glad to see Jesnon 2nd - and I think he did deserve it, having lost the 3 places at the start and taking the risk with the 2 stop strategy.
I'm thinking maybe MS is taking the piss a bit no he's won again - his fastest last lap carried a message to the rest of the field I think.
And Reubens' missus is a cutey - how sweet was she kissing the front of his helmet? (feel free to make smutty comments about that not being the only helmet of Reubens she kissed either)
Glad to see Jesnon 2nd - and I think he did deserve it, having lost the 3 places at the start and taking the risk with the 2 stop strategy.
I'm thinking maybe MS is taking the piss a bit no he's won again - his fastest last lap carried a message to the rest of the field I think.
And Reubens' missus is a cutey - how sweet was she kissing the front of his helmet? (feel free to make smutty comments about that not being the only helmet of Reubens she kissed either)
g force
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Silverstone is no more!
Hardly a surprise given the line on tobacco sponsorship and the very shite state of the pits.
But still
This year's GP was a corker and at least Silverstone has some soul unlike all the Tilkedrome's sprining up everywhere. I wish they'd redevelop the pits and fix what needs fixing but really until the Bernie stops trying to line his own pockets I can't see it coming back.
$8m just to host a GP
What does he do with it? It can't cost that to 'promote' it.
The teams really need to stand up to him before F1 is ruined...sadly I think it might be getting too late. Maybe it will need Renault to go (as has been rumoured) before they realise something must be done.
Hardly a surprise given the line on tobacco sponsorship and the very shite state of the pits.
But still
This year's GP was a corker and at least Silverstone has some soul unlike all the Tilkedrome's sprining up everywhere. I wish they'd redevelop the pits and fix what needs fixing but really until the Bernie stops trying to line his own pockets I can't see it coming back.$8m just to host a GP
What does he do with it? It can't cost that to 'promote' it.The teams really need to stand up to him before F1 is ruined...sadly I think it might be getting too late. Maybe it will need Renault to go (as has been rumoured) before they realise something must be done.
It a big shame but it isn't suprising at all.
Ecclestone's a cunt and a weird one at that, but I was up there recently (for work) and the place, franky, is a fucking shambles. It's embarassing.
It's not like they have't been warned about it either. After seeing what China pulled of, must've sealed it's fate
Ecclestone's a cunt and a weird one at that, but I was up there recently (for work) and the place, franky, is a fucking shambles. It's embarassing.
It's not like they have't been warned about it either. After seeing what China pulled of, must've sealed it's fate
Ich bin ein Mod
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Silverstone isn't "that" great a gp, just some rosy-tinted specs that's all. So I'm actually glads its gone, but not for the reasons it has
Trulli is back in for the last two races with Toyota.
Bernie has said Silverstone can come back on if £1.5 million can be found...
It's a crap track for spectators - comparisons to Shanghai might be unfair - but here it goes.
From next year, you can get a train to the GP circuit which is just 200 yards from the entrance.
Seats in Shanghai offer views of about half the lap (45 or more seconds). Silverstone about 12.
Seats in Shanghai are covered, not the case with Silverstone.
VIPs are put up in white tent marquee things at Silverstone - they get air conditioned permanent buildings in Shanghai...
Bernie has said Silverstone can come back on if £1.5 million can be found...
It's a crap track for spectators - comparisons to Shanghai might be unfair - but here it goes.
From next year, you can get a train to the GP circuit which is just 200 yards from the entrance.
Seats in Shanghai offer views of about half the lap (45 or more seconds). Silverstone about 12.
Seats in Shanghai are covered, not the case with Silverstone.
VIPs are put up in white tent marquee things at Silverstone - they get air conditioned permanent buildings in Shanghai...
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Suzuka coming up and I think we could have a very close GP.
Rubens flies round there, Renault should be suited to the circuit, McLaren usually go well and Honda are giving BAR Davidson's engine for the GP.
Big rumour is that Dallara, along with a major Russian/Canadian sponsor (possibly LUKOil and their tie in with Sunoco) will announce they are taking over Jaguar's assets, and taking a stake in Cosworth to provide the new team with engines for next season.
Pretty ambitious if true, but great news if they pull it off.
Rubens flies round there, Renault should be suited to the circuit, McLaren usually go well and Honda are giving BAR Davidson's engine for the GP.
Big rumour is that Dallara, along with a major Russian/Canadian sponsor (possibly LUKOil and their tie in with Sunoco) will announce they are taking over Jaguar's assets, and taking a stake in Cosworth to provide the new team with engines for next season.
Pretty ambitious if true, but great news if they pull it off.
Silverstone looks likely to be back on the calender, the shortfall is now only £800,000 and 'regional development aid' for the midlands might be used to make that up.
I reckon a Ferrari will still win it...impressive form considering they stopped any development on the car back in July/August.
I reckon a Ferrari will still win it...impressive form considering they stopped any development on the car back in July/August.
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Friday qually cancelled due to a huge rain storm.
Saturday may not go ahead and tema bosses are meeting to discuss alternatives - inlcuding stating from the finishing order in the last GP.
Still a possiblity the race may not go ahead due to dangerous conditions - Suzuka was stopped before when a tropical storm hit in 88, meebe 89 and then re-started.
Saturday may not go ahead and tema bosses are meeting to discuss alternatives - inlcuding stating from the finishing order in the last GP.
Still a possiblity the race may not go ahead due to dangerous conditions - Suzuka was stopped before when a tropical storm hit in 88, meebe 89 and then re-started.
Buddy Bradley
Pantheistic solipsist
Whatagwan? 
Is there a race tomorrow or not?
Is there a race tomorrow or not?
There was a race, no competition up at the sharp end as Michael Schumacher led every lap of the race...he didn't set the fastest lap though (Barrichello did) so it wasn't a 'perfect' weekend.
Quite a decent GP considering...probably a result of the messed up grid due to qualifying.
The local TV director needs to be replaced though...
Quite a decent GP considering...probably a result of the messed up grid due to qualifying.
The local TV director needs to be replaced though...
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The coverage was truly awful. Okay GP, and some decent scraps further down the field - loved it when JPM lost 3 places within 2 corners and then battled back.
Sauber were very strong - Fisi passing Villeneuev was pretty funny, considering they're swapping seats...wonder who was happier at the prospect?
Sauber were very strong - Fisi passing Villeneuev was pretty funny, considering they're swapping seats...wonder who was happier at the prospect?
Provisional Calender stuff in that link
http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/041013/23/70vb.html
Silverstone back on, sort of...will they all make it?
http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/041013/23/70vb.html
Silverstone back on, sort of...will they all make it?
g force
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So possibly 19 GPs, when we had 15 just 3 years ago....great cost sutting by the FIA there 
Why not just scrap the bloody European GP on that piss poor excuse for a circuit and have 18! I think Silverstone will make it...actually interesting calender with France early on and Shanghai to finish it.
If they have to scrap tracks I rather the French GP moved to Paul Ricard.
Why not just scrap the bloody European GP on that piss poor excuse for a circuit and have 18! I think Silverstone will make it...actually interesting calender with France early on and Shanghai to finish it.
If they have to scrap tracks I rather the French GP moved to Paul Ricard.
Having more GPs can raise revenue for the team...and the increases in money demands from the FIA is part of that (hence why some circuits are still negotiating if they can make it next season and why Silverstone was nearly chopped).
The teams getting the money through TV exposure and what not...
The teams getting the money through TV exposure and what not...
Ich bin ein Mod
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g force said:
Seconded. I'd like to see a "core" of the major historic tracks (perhaps Monza, Monaco (shite track but can you really see them dropping it?) Suzuka, Spa perhaps) with other countries GP's be moved around tracks.
Bestof all would be getting rid of dull tracks I suppose but it'd be a decent step towards shaking it up.
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This Dubai thing is very strange...why stump up the $48m bond when you could buy Jordan? I bet Eddie's sweating now...no real sponsors, no drivers paying him enough and possibly no engine.
I'm not sure Arden are stupid enough to buy them either - as a team it's going nowhere..
As I understand it, the Dubai team will have a Merc engine which where McLaren will mainly help out plus some other support around aero packages.
So 2006 could potentially have 22 cars, or 18:
Ferrari
McLaren
Williams
BAR
Toyota
Renault
Minardi
Midland
Team Dubai
Jordan?
Jag replacement?
Yep, last GP this weekend and I guess the end of this thread - it's beena good one. Roll on next year!!!
I'm not sure Arden are stupid enough to buy them either - as a team it's going nowhere..
As I understand it, the Dubai team will have a Merc engine which where McLaren will mainly help out plus some other support around aero packages.
So 2006 could potentially have 22 cars, or 18:
Ferrari
McLaren
Williams
BAR
Toyota
Renault
Minardi
Midland
Team Dubai
Jordan?
Jag replacement?
Yep, last GP this weekend and I guess the end of this thread - it's beena good one. Roll on next year!!!
g force
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Well...after near on 30 pages this must come to end
Great GP to end the season...shame 14 others were some of the worst I have ever witnessed. Nice to see Montoya remind us of why he's such a great driver - that Williams shouldn't really have won but he kept out of trouble, and really throttled the thing.
Nice to see the Jag mechanics wave Klien after their final pit stop - shame Webber spoilt the party.
TBH - I expect more of the same next season - Ferrari will be win it, but I think McLaren will be more competitive from the off, Rubens will go back to being slow, BAR should improve, and Renault have a very strong driver line up.
Great GP to end the season...shame 14 others were some of the worst I have ever witnessed. Nice to see Montoya remind us of why he's such a great driver - that Williams shouldn't really have won but he kept out of trouble, and really throttled the thing.
Nice to see the Jag mechanics wave Klien after their final pit stop - shame Webber spoilt the party.
TBH - I expect more of the same next season - Ferrari will be win it, but I think McLaren will be more competitive from the off, Rubens will go back to being slow, BAR should improve, and Renault have a very strong driver line up.
