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Will you vote for independence?

Scottish independence?

  • Yes please

    Votes: 99 56.6%
  • No thanks

    Votes: 57 32.6%
  • Dont know yet

    Votes: 17 9.7%

  • Total voters
    175
I'm sure Yessers will be having a rest for the moment, but I was wondering what's going to come out of the campaign. Any signs the group/network might be used for ongoing campaigns/politics?
 
I'm sure Yessers will be having a rest for the moment, but I was wondering what's going to come out of the campaign. Any signs the group/network might be used for ongoing campaigns/politics?
Yes. There's a Radical Independence conference in November. SNP, Greens and SSP are all reporting a surge in new memberships since yesterday andthere's a lot of people muttering about wanting to change things and stay involved in politics
 
Yes. There's a Radical Independence conference in November. SNP, Greens and SSP are all reporting a surge in new memberships since yesterday andthere's a lot of people muttering about wanting to change things and stay involved in politics
Cheers.
 
The patriots out in force as well. Andy Murray is a traitor. Must be proud Johnny.

I don't know if that's aimed at me - I'll assume it is. No sense of victory here, just a sense of relief that we're not taking a giant leap in the dark that we can't get back from if things go tits up. Certainly no sense of lining up behind a flag either - never been into the whole football/religious sectarianism thing.
 
I'm sure Yessers will be having a rest for the moment, but I was wondering what's going to come out of the campaign. Any signs the group/network might be used for ongoing campaigns/politics?

I haven't read this yet but I am one of the 45, over 100K likes in less than 24 hrs :)
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/09/20/scotland_0_n_5854258.html?utm_hp_ref=tw

The Unionist parties might like to think they've won this but they haven't and it's not over. 10 incidents of electoral fraud in Glasgow alone are being investigated by the police, there are other allegations too.
The genie is out of the bottle and it ain't going back in happily.

And this from FB

We're hearing reports that over 4000 people have joined the SNP, over 1200 have joined the Scottish Greens and over 585 people have joined the SSP within the past 48 hours!

We do hope that everyone who has backed the Yes campaign remain engaged with the political process and one of the best ways of doing that is to join a political party.

• SNP: https://my.snp.org/join
• Greens: http://www.scottishgreens.org.uk/join-donate/
• SSP: http://www.scottishsocialistparty.org/join-us/

Apparently the SNP site is crashing due to people signing up to be new members.
 
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I haven't read this yet but I am one of the 45, over 100K likes in less than 24 hrs :)
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/09/20/scotland_0_n_5854258.html?utm_hp_ref=tw

The Unionist parties might like to think they've won this but they haven't and it's not over. 10 incidents of electoral fraud in Glasgow alone are being investigated by the police, there are other allegations too.
The genie is out of the bottle and it ain't going back in happily.
10 allegations of personation. Who were they pretending to be? YES voters? Are you suggesting the vote was fixed?
 
The Common Weal, a cross party group led by Robin McAlpine, has also been deluged with emails asking for membership and how to help.

National Collective are making a statement shortly but look likely to continue campaigning.

"The 45" is likely also to organise itself into a cross-party campaign in the coming days on a specifically non-party basis, with groups such as Women for Independence and individuals like Lesley Riddoch likely to be prominent. Pat Kane has been talking up a "Scottish Bloc" for 2015 GE explicitly aiming at a Labour wipe out for the Scottish seats.

Greens now report 2000 new members in last 36 hours; SSP pushing 700. SNP 4000+.

Meanwhile Jack Straw is gibbering on about making future referendums illegal and Miliband says new powers for Scotland are not a priority whilst Cameron crudely tries to turn the devolution argument to narrow Tory advantage. Keep it up guys, you'll bring about a second referendum very shortly like this- and one you will lose.
 
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The Common Weal, a cross party group led by Robin McAlpine, has also been deluged with emails asking for membership and how to help.

National Collective are making a statement shortly but look likely to continue campaigning.

"The 45" is likely also to organise itself into a cross-party campaign in the coming days on a specifically non-party basis, with groups such as Women for Independence and individuals like Lesley Riddoch likely to be prominent. Pat Kane has been talking up a "Scottish Bloc" for 2015 GE explicitly aiming at a Labour wipe out for the Scottish seats.

Greens now report 2000 new members in last 36 hours; SSP pushing 700. SNP 4000+.

Meanwhile Jack Straw is gibbering on about making future referendums illegal and Miliband says "new powers for Scotland are not a priority" whilst Cameron crudely tries to turn the devolution argument to narrow Tory advantage. Keep it up guys, you'll bring about a second referendum very shortly like this- and one you will lose.
Have you a ref for that MIliband quote?
 
how else do you read "constitutional change is not a top priority"?
It's not how i read something. It's about whether he said it or not. And why you chose to say that he did. I accept that your reading of what he said is not dishonest - it's a partial gloss though at best as he tried to emphasise that constitutional change is really important. It's just not a quote from him though. This really is bad form - esp now.
 
Twitter Followers

SNP 46.9k
Scottish Green 15.6k
Scottish Labour 13.2k
SSP 9.7k
Scottish Conservatives 5.2k
Scottish Lib Dems 4k

Not a poll, but probably indicative of relative activist base in Scotland :D
 
..."The 45" is likely also to organise itself into a cross-party campaign...

I realise this name is intended to represent the 45% who voted for independence, but I'm sure you're also aware of the other significance of "The Forty-Five".

Do you think it's helpful to have a name which, deliberately or accidentally, evokes this historical event, with its connotations of a doomed campaign to restore an exiled ex-royal house?
 
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