Will you vote for independence?

[Quartz]

Shut up with commentary.

 

[Quartz]

it's a public debate, not a dialectic. You have to have the crowd as well as the argument.

Quite right, and Darling isn't doing it.

I don't think Darling is coming off as badly as you think he is. But I'm not really impressed with either so far.

 

[Dillinger4]

it's a public debate, not a dialectic. You have to have the crowd as well as the argument. And salmond hasn't lost it once yet, whereas darling darling is clearly rattled.

TBF if my case for no to indy was that shit I would also get crapped on.

Rhetoric works. For example, those comments about driving on the right and space aliens all served a purpose. Loads of purposes. It made the opposition look frivolous, it lightened the mood and played to audience after the currency bit, it allowed Salmond to look relaxed, and loads of other stuff. Notice how it was in a three? It's because good rhetoric really does work.

 

[Dillinger4]

Quite right, and Darling isn't doing it.

I don't think Darling is coming off as badly as you think he is. But I'm not really impressed with either so far.

Darling is on the back foot.

 

[Quartz]

Darling just blundered about 'poorer parts'

 

[weltweit]

I don't think anyone expects Darling to be the better debater.

 

[DotCommunist]

Rhetoric works. For example, those comments about driving on the right and space aliens all served a purpose. Loads of purposes. It made the opposition look frivolous, it lightened the mood and played to audience after the currency bit, it allowed Salmond to look relaxed, and loads of other stuff. Notice how it was in a three? It's because good rhetoric really does work.

yep and it served to trivialise any genuine points by darling via pointing out some absurdities when darling wants to play bookeeper

 

[DotCommunist]

BOOM

 

[DotCommunist]

what hows the mod allowed to wade in?

 

[DotCommunist]

this is great

 

[Quartz]

Salmond is blundering over Norway, because they have been more prudent, but most will miss it.


Darling getting squashed over banking.

 

[weltweit]

Interesting looking at the faces in the audience, quite a lot look very undecided by the spectacle in front of them. Can someone who saw the beginning tell me about the political makeup of the audience?

 

[DotCommunist]

starting to feel sorry for darling darling. He's outclassed.

 

[Quartz]

Ah, now Salmond's got Norway correctly.

 

[DotCommunist]

this is what happens when you field a twonky b-lister against a brawler

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

"We invented everything" deployed there. That's a Royal Mile tat shop tea towel argument

 

[weltweit]

this is what happens when you field a twonky b-lister against a brawler

Not what the insta-polls on here suggest
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...rling-the-debate-for-scotland-live?CMP=twt_gu

 

[Quartz]

Good questions from the audience.

 

[DotCommunist]

check out this mumbling cunt

 

[Quartz]

Salmond is showing a great command of facts.

 

[DotCommunist]

look at how salmond makes a step past his podium to address a question. Thats working it.

 

[74drew]

look at how salmond makes a step past his podium to address a question. Thats working it.

looks a bit too rehearsed to me. I'm worried he might take off his tie.

 

[DotCommunist]

Is it me or is darling darling starting to do a stronger scottish inflection to his spiel?

 

[weltweit]

look at how salmond makes a step past his podium to address a question. Thats working it.

I thought that was a bit cheap actually .... rehearsed ..

 

[weltweit]

Bloody pensions ...

 

[DotCommunist]

scots people are non working lazies who need propping up. Good strike there darling darling.

 

[Quartz]

scots people are non working lazies who need propping up. Good strike there darling darling.

He didn't say that. He pointed out that there was a growing older population.

 

[DotCommunist]

BANG youth appeal

uh-oh is this a met a black man moment...

no he's pulled it back!

 

[DotCommunist]

He didn't say that. He pointed out that there was a growing older population.

the implication was clear

 

[DotCommunist]

blinking like a shitting dog here darling