Will Corbyn lead Labour into the next election?

[ska invita]

I reckon no.

Bit of fun, speculation poll, poll closes in 30 days.

I think he's taken too many arrows, and isn't power hungry enough to stand for the sake of his own ambition.

McD to replace I guess?

 

[Smokeandsteam]

I reckon no.

isn't power hungry enough to stand for the sake of his own ambition.

Really??

 

[ska invita]

Really??

Not enough to lead Labour into defeat

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Depends if they can get a chosen replacement onto the slate I think. He's stuck it out so far, so I don't see him suddenly deciding to just walk away. He might if McDonnell or someone could take over though. Maybe the right wingers defecting might make that more likely - presumably it's a certain percentage of MPs who have to nominate so as the right wingers go that becomes easier to achieve.

 

[Sprocket.]

Is an GE possible in the next 30 days too?

 

[SpackleFrog]

I don't see how Tories can avoid an election this year so I don't see how anyone else leads Labour into the next GE.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

I'd vote for Derek Hatton to replace him.

 

[SpackleFrog]

Is an GE possible in the next 30 days too?

Certainly in the next 60.

 

[DotCommunist]

Convenient heart attack/sportsbag/kellied/dianad on the night he's due to move into number 10

 

[cantsin]

I reckon no.

Bit of fun, speculation poll, poll closes in 30 days.

I think he's taken too many arrows, and isn't power hungry enough to stand for the sake of his own ambition.

McD to replace I guess?

arguably that lack of ambition / hunger for power bleeds through into his whole political persona, and becomes a strength both internally ( doesn't get over stressed by the insane / endless levels of sh*t he has to deal with, and it's potential impact on his own future ) and externally ( the lack of cynicism resonates with folk across the generational spectrum )

 

[Sprocket.]

I'd vote for Derek Hatton to replace him.

You’ll have the Kinnocks looking for you.

 

[Wilf]

Can't see how Corbyn resigns or gets kicked out. Him getting the leadership embodied the momentum/social democrat attempt at reclaiming the party. Even passing the baton on to a fellow traveller would represent a risk to that project.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Convenient heart attack/sportsbag/kellied/dianad on the night he's due to move into number 10

Nasty fall on the allotment I reckon or killed by a falling manhole cover from his extensive collection.

 

[DotCommunist]

Can't see how Corbyn resigns or gets kicked out

I'd say prior to 2017 his position was far weaker and he was still refusing to go, staged resignations from the shad cab* ignored, take it to the members. I think he'd go if he lost another GE tho.

*Watson talking of a shuffle to bring some lbur right into the shad cab, lol. As if everyones forgotten the last time these people pissed on the olive branch

 

[redsquirrel]

I think the question in unanswerable as we who knows when the next GE will be.

Can't see how Corbyn resigns or gets kicked out. Him getting the leadership embodied the momentum/social democrat attempt at reclaiming the party. Even passing the baton on to a fellow traveller would represent a risk to that project.

Hmm, I can imagine some situations where he either resigns or is pushed. Considering how fast things change these days I wouldn't like to say that he'll definitely be leader in 4 and 1/2 years time. But I can't see anyone but him leading Labour into a GE in the next 6 months.

 

[Don Troooomp]

Only if the election is before the end of February

 

[skyscraper101]

Lead into the next election, sure.

Lead the party to power, doubtful. He couldn't win in 2017 and I've seen nothing to suggest Labour will turn it around with the numbers they need to form a majority government.

 

[Wilf]

Lead into the next election, sure.

Lead the party to power, doubtful. He couldn't win in 2017 and I've seen nothing to suggest Labour will turn it around with the numbers they need to form a majority government.

I suspect that's true, but doesn't add up to a reason to get rid of him (as in, there's a lack of alternatives who would do better).

 

[chilango]

Corbyn is safe until after the next GE defeat.

Unless he suffers "Ill health" first.

How the next GE pans out depends on when it is and what happens with Brexit obviously.

 

[Pickman's model]

Corbyn is safe until after the next GE defeat.

Unless he suffers "Ill health" first.

How the next GE pans out depends on when it is and what happens with Brexit obviously.

if he suffers "ill health" the traditional route out is to be made shadow minister for water transport

 

[Wilf]

Only if the election is before the end of February

Maybe you should stick to the trump thread? Wouldn't want the standard of your normally excellent posts to slip.

 

[Pickman's model]

Maybe you should stick to the trump thread? Wouldn't want the standard of your normally excellent posts to slip.

maybe he should stick to just thinking about posting

 

[moochedit]

I doubt he would stand down unless he was confident someone from his side would be nominated by the remaining mp's.

 

[Sprocket.]

Corbyn is safe, he had a massive majority in the last leadership election and I don’t think it would help Labour to change the leader before the next GE. The Trade Unions are still behind him and he is quite popular.

 

[Shechemite]

the lack of cynicism resonates with folk across the generational spectrum

Perhaps not Approval rating of Jeremy Cobryn, by age 2018 | UK Statistic

 

[Shechemite]

As to the OP, yes he will lead the LP until the election. Can’t see why he would either stand down or lose a leadership contest (could one even happen?)

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Corbyn is safe, he had a massive majority in the last leadership election and I don’t think it would help Labour to change the leader before the next GE. The Trade Unions are still behind him and he is quite popular.

His approval rating was -44 two weeks ago. I can't see it's improved much since then.

If his supporters are thinking properly - about how to get Labour elected, about how to keep the party together whilst not jettisoning the project to step away from neoliberal orthodoxy, about how to maintain their control - then they must be thinking a new leader at some point soon.

 

[Shechemite]

His approval rating was -44 two weeks ago. I can't see it's improved much since then.

If his supporters are thinking properly - about how to get Labour elected, about how to keep the party together whilst not jettisoning the project to step away from neoliberal orthodoxy, about how to maintain their control - then they must be thinking a new leader at some point soon.

Quite. The policies re nationalisation, the NHS, welfare are popular. The leader isn’t.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Quite. The policies re nationalisation, the NHS, welfare are popular. The leader isn’t.

At some point Corbyn, for loads of reasons some fair and some not, becomes an obstacle to delivering those policies. The barmy ‘cult of the leader stuff’ shouldn’t be allowed to get in the way of the wider project, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it did.

 

[Mr Moose]

Can't see how Corbyn resigns or gets kicked out. Him getting the leadership embodied the momentum/social democrat attempt at reclaiming the party. Even passing the baton on to a fellow traveller would represent a risk to that project.

If that’s the case it doesn’t have much of a hope. The desire for an (electoral) politics that at least in some way resists the ‘logic’ of the market can’t just reside in one awkward old man with uneven leadership skills. I doubt it does. The antisemitism problem (a massive issue for Labour breaking through further) largely revolves around his leadership and its baggage. At some point he needs to take it with him for the good of that project.